Does anyone know the typical train formation of services on the Hope valley on a weekday i.e for tomorrow.
I am hoping to go on a pacer as they offer greater views and lot's of bouncing![]()
12:49/17:50/18:49 are booked 142's ex-Man Picc
And
17:14/18:14/20:35 ex-Sheffield
That's surprised me as well; while I've sometimes seen a 150 sitting in the bay waiting to work a Hope Valley service while passing through Sheffield, I've only ever travelled on 142s on local services on the route, or watched them pass by from the beer garden of The Rambler in Edale.Also I thought they were nearly all 142s, have they cut them back recently?
That's surprised me as well; while I've sometimes seen a 150 sitting in the bay waiting to work a Hope Valley service while passing through Sheffield, I've only ever travelled on 142s on local services on the route, or watched them pass by from the beer garden of The Rambler in Edale.
Actually there is a small amount - between Chinley North and East Junctions, only on the Up Main.You shouldn't have too much bouncing because other than for points there is no jointed track.
142s could be in the majority but the other classes also work. Perhaps not so many 156s but they are seen.

Nah, there's much better all round visibility to enjoy the scenery from a Pacer. It's quite pleasant, chugging away along the picturesque Hope Valley.Have fun, it's a lovely ride, although one I prefer in a 150![]()
Nah, there's much better all round visibility to enjoy the scenery from a Pacer. It's quite pleasant, chugging away along the picturesque Hope Valley.
Not helped by the fact that, as well as there being vast tracts of interior wall and window pillar, the original, cramped 3+2 seating that still plagues many of Northern's units feels like it's virtually at floor level.Agreed, 150(/1)s are terrible for any vaguely scenic line, being uniquely[1] designed such that not one single seat has an acceptable window view.
[1] Sort of, Mk3 EMUs and PEP EMUs are the same.
Agreed, 150(/1)s are terrible for any vaguely scenic line, being uniquely[1] designed such that not one single seat has an acceptable window view.
[1] Sort of, Mk3 EMUs and PEP EMUs are the same.
Yes, I actually rate 150s as being worse than 142s. 323 EMUs also have poor seating but are redeemed by being quieter and nippier.
I generally see 150s and 142s on the route, depending on the day and time. 156s run mostly on Sundays, when then pacers are parked up in the through roads at Sheffield (and elsewhere). It generally happens that either 142s or 150s run on a day, I don't often see them running together - what you go on you tend to return on. Have fun, it's a lovely ride, although one I prefer in a 150![]()
They are atrocious. I usually seem to get the ones with the original bus benches: On a lightly loaded train they act as a very pleasant 2 x 1 layout, although it goes without saying that they get a bit cosy when they're busy, whether travelling out of Sheffield in the evening peak or into Manchester on a Saturday night. Best to travel as a group, as that way at least you're rubbing shoulders and elbows with people you know!I always seem to get the 142s with the dreadful Merseyrail seats when I use a Hope Valley stopper (mostly Saturdays). Can't get even remotely comfortable in them.
The 0914 from Sheffield is regularly reported as being a 156
Northerns are a mixture of 142s, 150s and 156s. You haven't specifically mentioned a particular because, as well as Northern, EMT work the route with trains between Liverpool and Norwich hourly booked to be worked by pairs of 158s but quite frequently 158+156 and occasionally 158+153 Combos. Not forgetting TPE operating an hourly service between Manchester Airport and Cleethorpes which are 185s and nothing else.