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Buddleia plants covering railway infrastructure

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Yes, this does my head in too. on my journey to Waterloo East from High Brooms every day I can see Buddleia in between the bricks in overbridges, in retaining walls, in viaducts, actually all over the roof of Hither Green station buildings and covered (out of use) underpass, and just generally in the ballast.

And I can see the brick layers being distorted, bricks coming out of place etc.

All in all a great danger to the railway (some bridge parapets are going to fall on the track) and storing up a huge cost.

As someone from a TOC recently said to me: "if you had Buddleia growing out of the walls or roof of your house, you'd do something about it. Why doesn't Network Rail?"

I too frequently pass through Hither Green on the Sidcup line and the buddleia bushes at the end of platform 5 are enormous and must have been there for years. If you travel along the down line from Cannon Street towards New Cross / Greenwich there is a profusion of buddleia growing alongside the track, despite much of that track having been replaced in the last year or two. A journey today along the South London line from Clapham High St towards Denmark Hill shows enormous buddleia bushes sprouting from the viaduct. I noticed trees growing next to the tracks with roots several inches wide. And I vividly remember the tree inbetween the Charing Cross and Cannon Street lines near St Johns which remained in place notwithstanding replacement of track a few feet away, it may still be there. For the last year the fast lines to Charing Cross along the viaduct which leads into the new Bermondsey diveunder tracks have been closed and engineering staff are often on site working on the tracks, installing new signals and cabling, and repairing portions of the viaduct brickwork. Despite this and the lengthy closure, buddleia still festoons the viaduct's brickwork.

I fully appreciate that resources are tight and that vegetation management has to compete with other priorities. Removing buddleia growing on the outside surface of viaducts in particular must be a real challenger given the difficulties in access. But surely some attempts could be made during routine line possessions to at least trim the plants if they can't be completely removed, all that is needed is a pair of secateurs and a saw ?
 
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But surely some attempts could be made during routine line possessions to at least trim the plants if they can't be completely removed, all that is needed is a pair of secateurs and a saw ?

Not a good idea with buddleia, trimming just reinvigorates the darn thing.
 

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I visited Box yesterday and took this photo of the Western portal of Box Tunnel from the observation point adjacent to the A4 road bridge. As can be seen it is almost completely obscured by buddleia and other various assorted vegetation.
 

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We have a Buddleia in our back garden. The damn thing grows quicker than I have the time to cut it back. It has become huge in the last 2 months. It looks like the Yew tree out of A Monster Calls at the minute.
 
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I visited Box yesterday and took this photo of the Western portal of Box Tunnel from the observation point adjacent to the A4 road bridge. As can be seen it is almost completely obscured by buddleia and other various assorted vegetation.

Nice picture! And there will be some work to do 'down the line'.
But the flowering plant looks to me like rosebay willowherb which as a herbaceous perennial poses little risk to infrastructure. In fact probably a good indicator of ground that has been cleared in the not too distant past.

http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/species/rosebay-willowherb
How to identify
Rosebay Willowherb is a tall plant with pink flowers rising up a flower spike; these flowers appear from June to September. It has lance-like leaves which are arranged spirally up its stem.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...wjqn0xnq7t1BdYGi77o6RB1F0lV5nRzlrtGQNqW_kEz8q
 
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Thanks for the information, I initially thought the plant with the pink flowers was buddliea, but looking again at photo I can now see it does look a little different.
 
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My suspicion would be that the buddliea, much like the Japenese knotweed, was originally allowed to grow across boundaries and the like over the years to deter developments adjacent to NR owned/operated land.

Though of course, if they think it's growing into their land from your side of the fence, they'll be round to clear it sharpish (along with posting you a very hefty bill...)
 

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My suspicion would be that the buddliea, much like the Japenese knotweed, was originally allowed to grow across boundaries and the like over the years to deter developments adjacent to NR owned/operated land.

Though of course, if they think it's growing into their land from your side of the fence, they'll be round to clear it sharpish (along with posting you a very hefty bill...)

is that your honest view or some kind of silly/humorous suggestion?
 

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Was involved on a residential scheme that was built on brownfield land next to existing track.

Let's just say they were fairly candid in our consultation meetings with their asset management teams...
 

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Was involved on a residential scheme that was built on brownfield land next to existing track.

Let's just say they were fairly candid in our consultation meetings with their asset management teams...

there is a world of difference between not being very good at/not interested in/ not able to afford vegetation management and some kind of conspiracy that you suggested in your quoted post! :roll:
 

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When I started this thread, i did not think it would prove to be so popular.l

Looking at some recent pictures from SSC on the Ordsall Chord thread, that there was some brand new brickwork for the parapet. Then a couple of yards to the left in the old brickwork, there were a couple of buddleia growing - couldn't they have been removed or wasn't it in somebody's job description?

Don't they say prevention is better than cure, and its a lot less expensive.
 

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Maybe once the pacers are retired they could refit them with sprayers, flame jets and michanical sythes/strimmers and drive them round the network dealing with such things?

A good few are already - pouring oil over the ballast and shearing branches through the hopper windows.
 

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True, true, but they made it clear why most of this stuff have been planted and left to grow in the first place!
 

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This is the view out of my window at work. There is a railway there somewhere!

buddleia.jpg
 

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They've been out the past few nights hacking away at the buddlea around Derby station yard.
 

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I wonder what the time period and cost would be for a determined effort to eradicate Buddleia Davidii in the large city station areas alone?

It will be virtually impossible to eradicate as the seeds are readily blown along the railway by trains and no amount of chopping will get rid of the opportunity for new seeding.
 

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It will be virtually impossible to eradicate as the seeds are readily blown along the railway by trains and no amount of chopping will get rid of the opportunity for new seeding.

It needs spraying. Once it is dead to the roots it won't have anything to seed.
 

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but that requires something better than the plant food that is available as weedkiller nowadays. Not advocating a return to agent orange but something....
 
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