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Visit to Tweedbank & the Borders line and also to Lochgelly

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STEVIEBOY1

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Good morning, I may be going to Scotland later this year or early next.

I would like to do the new line from Edinburgh to Tweedbank, is there much to do in Tweedbank for an hour or so, places to eat, pubs etc.

I have also been recommended to visit the town of Lochgelly located north of Edinburgh, again is there much to do there for a couple of hours?

Many Thanks.
 
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Nothing at all really in Tweedbank and whoever recomended Lochgelly is surely having a joke? Like many other former mining towns across Scotland, Lochgelly has been near forgotten about, neglected and has been on it's knees for decades. I'm not sure why anyone would recommend Lochgelly for a visit :-?.
 

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Good morning, I may be going to Scotland later this year or early next.

I would like to do the new line from Edinburgh to Tweedbank, is there much to do in Tweedbank for an hour or so, places to eat, pubs etc.

I have also been recommended to visit the town of Lochgelly located north of Edinburgh, again is there much to do there for a couple of hours?

Many Thanks.

If you want a break at the southern end of the Borders line, Galashiels is a much better bet. As long as you have a flexible ticket, you can break your journey there & continue onto Tweedbank afterwards.
 

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Good morning, I may be going to Scotland later this year or early next.

I would like to do the new line from Edinburgh to Tweedbank, is there much to do in Tweedbank for an hour or so, places to eat, pubs etc.

I have also been recommended to visit the town of Lochgelly located north of Edinburgh, again is there much to do there for a couple of hours?

Many Thanks.

Nothing in Tweedbank, plenty in Galashiels for more than an hour. If you want to travel the full length of the line, you can go onwards from Tweedbank to Melrose which is a lovely little town; there's the famous abbey and lots of nice shops and cafes. It's a good half an hour walk from Tweedbank (and not an easy one to be honest - on a NSL road IIRC with overgrown trees obstructing the pavement), although there are also buses or of course a local taxi.

As for Lochgelly... I'm struggling to think of any reason to go there to be honest. You'd be better off heading towards Stirling, Dundee, St Andrews, even Dunfermline would be better. So many more places to explore.
 

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Lochgelly has a stock car circuit, apart from that there is no reason at all to ever go there.
 

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Thank you for the suggestions, I shall get off at Galashiels, then later carry on to Tweedbank and come straight Back, North Berwick sounds good too. Whilst in Edinburgh I may have a play on the trams and see HMY Britannia. I may also try to get to Hawick as I heard that is quite good too. Oddly enough I have a couple of wool pullovers that were made in that town.

It's funny as I have heard of Lochgelly, I think it is infact famous for something but can't think what at the moment.
 

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Lochgelly was once on 1990s TV "comedy" show They Think Its All Over as at the time it was part of a football song that in pre-internet days went the early 90s version of viral and was sung by various teams around Scotland when playing teams from the Kingdom.
 

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Lochgelly was once on 1990s TV "comedy" show They Think Its All Over as at the time it was part of a football song that in pre-internet days went the early 90s version of viral and was sung by various teams around Scotland when playing teams from the Kingdom.

I do remember that show, maybe that is what is in my mind about Lochgelly.
 

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When I did the Tweedbank line, I went straight to Tweedbank and stopped off at Galashiels on the way back. I spent a bit of time there, went to Wetherspoons and copped a few buses too. Everything seems close to the station too which is good especially if the weather is not being kind to you.
 

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The belt? :(
Yup, the scud is all it's famous for. See below, for the enlightenment of forum members outside Scotland.

Terrifying that they still make them as a 'collector's item'. Who on earth...?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39044445

For children schooled in Scotland right up until the 1980s, a particular leather product was the source of fear and dread - the Lochgelly Tawse.

The tawse, a Scots word meaning thongs of a whip, was an essential part of the teacher's trade.

It was the Scottish school's corporal punishment weapon of choice against unruly students and enforced a strict atmosphere in classrooms from Shetland to the Borders.

While students throughout the rest of the UK were punished by use of belt or cane, Scottish teachers used this modified version of the belt - a thick leather whip with one end split in to two tails, or tawse.

"The culture of the society completely accepted this. The parents were all for it," historian Sir Tom Devine tells the BBC Scotland documentary Growing up in Scotland: A century of childhood.

According to educational policy expert Prof Lindsay Paterson: "The threat of physical violence was present in schools but then it was present in families, it was present in communities, it was present through the church.

"The schools simply saw themselves as reproducing that - ethics were to be instilled partly by the threat of violence."

Students were not only disciplined for disobeying rules or disorderly behaviour but simply for not understanding a lesson, or for answering a question incorrectly.

Prof Devine, from Edinburgh University, says: "There is plenty of evidence that if you failed to gain a certain mark then the belt would be produced."

The Reverend Bill Brown tells the Growing up in Scotland programme he got belted one day for spelling Canada with a small 'c'.

He says: "It led to a mini breakdown. It was almost like a mental breakdown.

"The consequence of which was that I became withdrawn. I missed a couple of years of school."

He adds: "I think it is appalling to think we would hit children with a belt like this.

"It is incredible to think there was actually a production line producing these so that teachers would always have one."

Throughout the mid-20th century, Scotland's saddlers and leather makers developed their techniques in creating a tawse that was fast to manufacturer, easy to wield, yet firm when used.

However one manufacturer's design rose above the rest, and is said to have held the majority of the tawse market, estimated at 70%.

Based in Lochgelly, Fife, John J Dick Leather Goods were the teacher's preferred suppliers at the height of the tawse's reign of terror.

The Lochgelly Tawse was made by cutting 2ft long strips of leather from pre-tanned and pre-curried hides.

The leather would then be dressed and cut halfway up the middle to form the tails.

The particular design of the tails provided the searing nip when it struck the student's hand.

However, the Lochgelly method was preferable in that the tails were "edged" in order to prevent drawing blood.

In the early 1970s demand for the tawse was strong but a modern manufacturing method was required to keep up with orders from teachers not just in Scotland, but across the UK.

The company modernised their method with a state-of-the-art three-phase cutting press, allowing manufacturing of the tawse on a factory scale.

By the end of the 1970s it became harder to source leather thick enough to manufacture the heavier versions of the tawse and public opinion on corporal punishment was slowly starting to change.

By 1983 the use of corporal punishment was beginning to be phased out in state schools after two Scottish mothers won an action in the European Court of Human Rights.

Use of the Lochgelly Tawse and any other form of corporal Punishment was finally banned in state schools in 1987, with Scottish private schools following suit over 10 years later in 1998.

Margaret Dick is granddaughter of George Dick and daughter of John Dick, the men behind the infamous Lochgelly design.

She still runs the family leather goods business from Lochgelly, supplying leather wares for Sgain Dubhs, harnesses and handbags.

Surprisingly the manufacturing of the tawse continues, though only as a collector's item, and not on the scale of years gone by.

Margaret has mixed feelings about the tawse and finds it surprising that so many people are still interested in it.

She says: "It's just part of the history of my family, and like it or lump it, I'm stuck with that."
 
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Last time I went to Lochgelly it was a struggle to find a cafe to have a coffee. I was told not to park my van round the back of the theatre/arts centre as there was a high risk of vandalism.

It is Scotlands Most Improved Town 2016.
Off topic, but what an odd competition, I'd never heard of it before.

Auchterarder, right next to Gleneagles, in what way were they expected to improve? Provide the stuffy old residents with a sense of humour would be my number one suggestion.
 

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Nothing in Tweedbank, plenty in Galashiels for more than an hour. If you want to travel the full length of the line, you can go onwards from Tweedbank to Melrose which is a lovely little town; there's the famous abbey and lots of nice shops and cafes. It's a good half an hour walk from Tweedbank (and not an easy one to be honest - on a NSL road IIRC with overgrown trees obstructing the pavement), although there are also buses or of course a local taxi.

As for Lochgelly... I'm struggling to think of any reason to go there to be honest. You'd be better off heading towards Stirling, Dundee, St Andrews, even Dunfermline would be better. So many more places to explore.

Tweedbank station lies on the route of a Scottish Great (national) Trail, the Southern Uplands Way and close to another along the riverbank, the Border Abbeys Way. Its an exceedingly easy, pleasant and well waymarked 30 min walk from Tweedbank to Montrose along the SUW, first along the old trackbed then the riverbank path. There's also 2 or 3 buses per hour.

Abbotsford House, the very stately home of Sir Walter Scott, is a slightly shorter walk along the riverbank in the other direction along the Border Abbeys Way or take a bus to Galafoot Bridge.

To see the routes on a detailed OS map, go to Bing Maps, search for Tweedbank, click on OS maps in the top right hand corner and zoom right in until the station is shown and the paths marked with green (not red) diamonds.

Either/both are far more interesting and attractive options than Galashiels. I note Tripadvisors top 3 attractions in Galashiels are a) the railway b) a park and c) Wetherspoons!
 
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