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Theresa May calls General Election on 8th June.
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DarloRich
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this really is terrible - no depth or body to any of this. Just childish squabbling. An open goal for Corbyn. He really cant lose here although the damage to May is also limited
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Worst debate I've ever seen I think.
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DarloRich
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in separate news:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...osts-tory-party-candidate-absolutely-shocking
Oh dear.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...osts-tory-party-candidate-absolutely-shocking
Oh dear.
northwichcat
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Farron, Robertson and Lucas have all done quite well. Nuttall and Rudd both shot themselves in the foot, especially Nuttall with his comments on Islam.
Butts
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At least May did not do a u-turn on the decision to participate unlike Corbyn
I can't really blame her after watching that debacle that purported to be a debate. Where is DD when you need a steady anchorman or even LK for an anchorwoman on the BBC.
Six against one poor Amber did her best !!
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Considering she won the toss and put the election into bat, looking at the shower on display tonight any half-decent wanna-be PM would have gone in there and walked it with oversized wellies on.
She knew who would be on, and bottled out. If you can't even hit a one when they are bowling underarm lobs at you, what chance when the big guns from the EU come to play?
May...sad loser for that alone. If she can't defend her policies against that lot.....Blair or Hague would have taken them to the cleaners.
She knew who would be on, and bottled out. If you can't even hit a one when they are bowling underarm lobs at you, what chance when the big guns from the EU come to play?
May...sad loser for that alone. If she can't defend her policies against that lot.....Blair or Hague would have taken them to the cleaners.
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At least May did not do a u-turn on the decision to participate unlike Corbyn
I can't really blame her after watching that debacle that purported to be a debate. Where is DD when you need a steady anchorman or even LK for an anchorwoman on the BBC.
Six against one poor Amber did her best !!
Poor Amber? Aw, diddums. I early July she could be the PM taking Britain into it's biggest upheaval since the war, as I reckon the knives will be out tonight for loser May ducking out.
All this will be noted by the EU who will be wringing their hands. "How many £b's can we screw the UK for....?" They won't be half as accommodating as tonight's audience...
Blair refused to do debates!
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I'm now wishing I'd gone to the bookies a fortnight ago and got some very good odds for the Tories winning fewer seats this time than in 2015. I'm convinced now that, though they may gain a smattering in some Brexit towns and maybe one or two in Scotland, they'll lose more than they gain. If I'm right, at the very least their overall majority would decline, and they might lose it altogether. You can almost see the power seeping away: another fortnight should do it (I might be the only person who wants the campaign prolonged).
bramling
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Where do you think the votes will go? I just can't see Corbyn picking them up, and Farron's campaign has been even more flat than May's. I can't see the Conservatives doing worse than last time. Perhaps the result will be similar, a few Conservative gains from SNP, a slight Lib Dem improvement amounting to a couple of seats, and not much else changing.
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Howardh
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Good, he'd do it without practice then!!
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Labour could well pick up seats in London and the SouthEast e.g. Croydon Central and Brighton Kemptown, and LibDems in SW London, maybe Guildford and Sutton too. Got a feeling the Cons won't get those Welsh seats they thought were theirs for the taking either, other than one maybe. I guess a lot depends on where the UKIP vote goes, and I'm banking on either a no-show or continuing to vote UKIP in those seats where they are standing.
In the case of Kemptown with a 600ish Tory majority, it is only their 10th most marginal seat. They had Lady Luck on their side in 2015, and lightning doesn't strike twice.
DynamicSpirit
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In the case of Kemptown with a 600ish Tory majority, it is only their 10th most marginal seat. They had Lady Luck on their side in 2015, and lightning doesn't strike twice.
Ummm, actually.... Lightning Myths....
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That's why I put a
Somebody also won the lottery jackpot twice, and I don't believe they worked for Camelot.
EM2
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Amber Rudd's father passed away on Monday, and yet May still sent her in to the debate.
For May not to step in and take part in the debate that she should have done in the first place disgusts me.
For May not to step in and take part in the debate that she should have done in the first place disgusts me.
PHILIPE
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People who may change to Corbyn may regret the folly of their ways come a few years time. The problem with him is not any good but rather the bad things that go against him.
Butts
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I'm sure Rudd was not forced to participate against her will. If you actually watched the "debate" you might have some inkling as to why May didn't want to take part and Corbyn was a late addition.
As the incumbent the others would merely gang up on May with very little of worth being learnt apart from who can "hector" the loudest.
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Yes, it would have been a perfect reason to join the debate and not be accused of a u-turn. Even if she asked Rudd how she felt, a decent leader wouldn't have given her a choice, I'll do the debate, you go off and get some time with your family.
phoenixcronin
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May's arrogance has well and truly ****ed her in my opinion. As someone who definitely does not want to see Corbyn as PM, it's disappointing.
I shall be voting LibDem, but I was disappointed with Farron's performance. He was far too reliant on soundbites and stories etc
I also agree that the audience was very biased. Seemed full of lefties
I shall be voting LibDem, but I was disappointed with Farron's performance. He was far too reliant on soundbites and stories etc
I also agree that the audience was very biased. Seemed full of lefties
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EM2
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I did watch it. If May can't cope with what was fired at Amber Rudd, what makes you think that she'll make a decent fist of anything else?
bramling
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Can't or didn't want to - not really the same thing.
Having said that I do think she should have participated. Can't see it altering anyone's vote though. If anything the flat manifesto is more of a turn-off, but I think people will still see it as the least-worst, or at least least-risky, option on the table. For all May's lacklustre campaign, at least voters know that if she wins then Diane Abbott won't be Home Secretary.
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It's remarkable how Labour has become a one man party. Time and time again on forums and Youtube I see people say "I'm voting Corbyn" as though they live in his constituency. Back in the day I don't remember anyone saying "I'm voting Callaghan" or "I'm voting Kinnock" .
Butts
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At least this Election is seemingly no longer a foregone conclusion like some in recent years with both Labour or Tory victories almost pre-ordained in 79,83,87,97,01,05.
Who knows what David Dimbleby will be announcing at 2200 on Thursday 8th June when the Exit Poll details are revealed.
Who knows what David Dimbleby will be announcing at 2200 on Thursday 8th June when the Exit Poll details are revealed.
Butts
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At least this Election is seemingly no longer a foregone conclusion like some in recent years with both Labour or Tory victories almost pre-ordained in 79,83,87,97,01,05.
Who knows what David Dimbleby will be announcing at 2200 on Thursday 8th June when the Exit Poll details are revealed.
By the way it has to BBC - DD's swansong - no one is more experienced - every General Election since 1979
Howardh
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Does the phrase "I'm voting for Thatcher" not ring a bell??
That's because, as dangerous and atrocious as Corbyn is, his team consists of John McDonnell, Diane Abbot, Emily Thornberry, Barry Gardiner. They are truly dreadful people; whatever the antonym of 'dream team' is.
bramling
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Yes it was amusing. It is rather regrettable this campaign has been characterised by constant attacks from one party or politician to another. The amount of policy discussion has been the lowest in any election I can remember. No wonder none of the parties seem to be fizzing and capturing the public mood. Apart from May's general Brexit direction, I can't think of one single policy which has really stood out to me in an "I really like that" manner. Blair and Cameron had multiple policies with something for everyone - this is what is totally missing from this, and this is why those leaders won. Whoever wins this will be whoever the least mud sticks to, which is a rather sad outcome.
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