Just done some searching - If it was the one shown on the link, then yes, it was definitely only a demonstration.
http://www.rail-order.co.uk/158icasestudy
http://www.rail-order.co.uk/158icasestudy
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Bertie the bus
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Is that all 150275 has done since returning to Newton Heath on 16th February - 1 trip from Manchester - Southport?
Ah cheers. Have Northern deigned to put USB ports on their newly refurbished 158's or are they just screwing around with the seats (as previous posters would suggest)?
Thomas6187
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319461 also has a new accessible toilet
It also did the return working 2J78 where upon arrival at Man Vic it was taken out of service and driven to Newton Heath. Find attached a photo of it at Man Vic after I rode on it from Walkden.
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It does indeed, also the '2' side of the seating under the pantograph has been changed into an all airline layout. Is today the first day 361 has been out do you know?
Brodies are currently doing 155 & 158
Wabtec Kilmarnock have done 150275
Wabtec Doncaster, Arriva Traincare Crewe and Springburn have just been doing corrosion, disabled toilet etc and PIS system on 150 at Doncaster and 156 for the other two.
Wolverton have been looking at 319 and 323s but not sure what they've done
Not yet. Northern apparantly doing the refurbs in numerous stages.. first stage was to get the design etc and majority of the refurb done. Then going to focus at a later date on fitting the wifi and on board connectivity.
There is as you say 1 158 that does have USB.. think it's a 2 car and only 1 of the cars has it fitted.
156471, looks quite a bit better than the rest of the stock in this livery, it must be said.
Maybe it's the black light surrounds that does it.
Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/61502487@N04/33338983916/
Wonder what they will look like on the inside, I do hope this has more luck than the 150, which has spent the vast majority of its time in Newton Heap depot.
Sam
BurtonM
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That 150 looks, um, rubbish.
I really like that, the black light surrounds look good as well.
Updated list, thanks to those who have posted updates.
Units in red are in the Northern Rail livery or their former operator's livery.
Units in purple are currently being refurbished.
Units in blue are in the Northern livery and have been refurbished.
Units with a star (*) have received PRM modifications.
Class 150s:
150103, 150110, 150111, 150112, 150113, 150114, 150115, 150116, 150117, 150118, 150119, 150132, 150133, 150134, 150135, 150136*, 150137*, 150138, 150139, 150140, 150141, 150142, 150143, 150144, 150145, 150146, 150147, 150148, 150149, 150150.
150201, 150203, 150204*, 150205, 150206*, 150207, 150210, 150211, 150214, 150215, 150218, 150220*, 150222*, 150223*, 150224, 150225, 150226, 150228, 150268, 150269, 150270, 150271, 150272, 150273, 150274, 150275*, 150276, 150277.
Class 155s:
155341, 155342, 155343, 155344, 155345, 155346, 155347.
Class 156s:
156420, 156421, 156423, 156424, 156425, 156426, 156427, 156428, 156429, 156438, 156440, 156441, 156443*, 156444*, 156448, 156451*, 156452, 156454*, 156455, 156459, 156460, 156461, 156463*, 156464, 156466, 156468, 156469, 156471*, 156472*, 156475, 156479, 156480, 156481, 156482*, 156483*, 156484, 156486, 156487*, 156488, 156489, 156490, 156491.
Class 158s:
2-car: 158784, 158787, 158790, 158791, 158792, 158793, 158794, 158795, 158796, 158797, 158815, 158816, 158817, 158842, 158843, 158844, 158845, 158848, 158849, 158850, 158851, 158853, 158855, 158859, 158860, 158861, 158872, 158901, 158902, 158903, 158904, 158905, 158906, 158907, 158908, 158909, 158910.
3-car: 158752*, 158753, 158754, 158755, 158756*, 158757, 158758, 158759.
Note: 158906 is fitted with WiFi, charging points and a PIS in one carriage.
Class 319s:
319004, 319005*.
319218*, 319219*.
319361*, 319362*, 319363, 319364, 319365, 319366, 319367, 319368, 319369, 319371, 319374, 319375, 319376, 319377, 319378, 319379, 319380, 319382, 319383, 319386.
319424*, 319431*, 319434*, 319442, 319448*, 319450*, 319456*, 319458*.
Class 333s:
333001, 333002, 333003, 333004, 333005, 333006, 333007, 333008, 333009, 333010, 333011, 333012, 333013, 333014, 333015, 333016.
If anybody notices any mistakes, please let me know.
Units in red are in the Northern Rail livery or their former operator's livery.
Units in purple are currently being refurbished.
Units in blue are in the Northern livery and have been refurbished.
Units with a star (*) have received PRM modifications.
Class 150s:
150103, 150110, 150111, 150112, 150113, 150114, 150115, 150116, 150117, 150118, 150119, 150132, 150133, 150134, 150135, 150136*, 150137*, 150138, 150139, 150140, 150141, 150142, 150143, 150144, 150145, 150146, 150147, 150148, 150149, 150150.
150201, 150203, 150204*, 150205, 150206*, 150207, 150210, 150211, 150214, 150215, 150218, 150220*, 150222*, 150223*, 150224, 150225, 150226, 150228, 150268, 150269, 150270, 150271, 150272, 150273, 150274, 150275*, 150276, 150277.
Class 155s:
155341, 155342, 155343, 155344, 155345, 155346, 155347.
Class 156s:
156420, 156421, 156423, 156424, 156425, 156426, 156427, 156428, 156429, 156438, 156440, 156441, 156443*, 156444*, 156448, 156451*, 156452, 156454*, 156455, 156459, 156460, 156461, 156463*, 156464, 156466, 156468, 156469, 156471*, 156472*, 156475, 156479, 156480, 156481, 156482*, 156483*, 156484, 156486, 156487*, 156488, 156489, 156490, 156491.
Class 158s:
2-car: 158784, 158787, 158790, 158791, 158792, 158793, 158794, 158795, 158796, 158797, 158815, 158816, 158817, 158842, 158843, 158844, 158845, 158848, 158849, 158850, 158851, 158853, 158855, 158859, 158860, 158861, 158872, 158901, 158902, 158903, 158904, 158905, 158906, 158907, 158908, 158909, 158910.
3-car: 158752*, 158753, 158754, 158755, 158756*, 158757, 158758, 158759.
Note: 158906 is fitted with WiFi, charging points and a PIS in one carriage.
Class 319s:
319004, 319005*.
319218*, 319219*.
319361*, 319362*, 319363, 319364, 319365, 319366, 319367, 319368, 319369, 319371, 319374, 319375, 319376, 319377, 319378, 319379, 319380, 319382, 319383, 319386.
319424*, 319431*, 319434*, 319442, 319448*, 319450*, 319456*, 319458*.
Class 333s:
333001, 333002, 333003, 333004, 333005, 333006, 333007, 333008, 333009, 333010, 333011, 333012, 333013, 333014, 333015, 333016.
If anybody notices any mistakes, please let me know.
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The new scheme suits the 156!
Bletchleyite
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mikemcniven
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which depot this allocated too?
I don't think that would work on this particular livery, personally. With the dark blue swoop being where it is on the carriage body, I think a dark window surround would clash with the dark blue and spoil the look of what in my view is quite a bright and smart livery
Allerton TMD.
mikemcniven
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Thanks for that, hopefully means I should see it somewhere in GM when it comes into service
casualobserver
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Not being deliberately negative here, but even what's a refurbished unit still hasn't received LED bodyside hazard lights nor HID/LED cab end lighting units. This really doesn't scream the transformational change the company have been promising. Nevertheless the colour scheme whilst impractical in its ability to hide dirt does really suit. I wonder whether the class 333 fleet will see an entirely vinyl livery application when it comes to their refurbishment?
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The refurbishment is being done in stages, I'm sure they'll be added at some point.
superkev
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Thankyou most interesting.Updated list, thanks to those who have posted updates.
Units in red are in the Northern Rail livery or their former operator's livery.
Units in purple are currently being refurbished.
Units in blue are in the Northern livery and have been refurbished.
Units with a star (*) have received PRM modifications.
Class 150s:
150103, 150110, 150111, 150112, 150113, 150114, 150115, 150116, 150117, 150118, 150119, 150132, 150133, 150134, 150135, 150136*, 150137*, 150138, 150139, 150140, 150141, 150142, 150143, 150144, 150145, 150146, 150147, 150148, 150149, 150150.
150201, 150203, 150204*, 150205, 150206*, 150207, 150210, 150211, 150214, 150215, 150218, 150220*, 150222*, 150223*, 150224, 150225, 150226, 150228, 150268, 150269, 150270, 150271, 150272, 150273, 150274, 150275*, 150276, 150277.
Class 155s:
155341, 155342, 155343, 155344, 155345, 155346, 155347.
Class 156s:
156420, 156421, 156423, 156424, 156425, 156426, 156427, 156428, 156429, 156438, 156440, 156441, 156443*, 156444*, 156448, 156451*, 156452, 156454*, 156455, 156459, 156460, 156461, 156463*, 156464, 156466, 156468, 156469, 156471*, 156472*, 156475, 156479, 156480, 156481, 156482*, 156483*, 156484, 156486, 156487*, 156488, 156489, 156490, 156491.
Class 158s:
2-car: 158784, 158787, 158790, 158791, 158792, 158793, 158794, 158795, 158796, 158797, 158815, 158816, 158817, 158842, 158843, 158844, 158845, 158848, 158849, 158850, 158851, 158853, 158855, 158859, 158860, 158861, 158872, 158901, 158902, 158903, 158904, 158905, 158906, 158907, 158908, 158909, 158910.
3-car: 158752*, 158753, 158754, 158755, 158756*, 158757, 158758, 158759.
Note: 158906 is fitted with WiFi, charging points and a PIS in one carriage.
Class 319s:
319004, 319005*.
319218*, 319219*.
319361*, 319362*, 319363, 319364, 319365, 319366, 319367, 319368, 319369, 319371, 319374, 319375, 319376, 319377, 319378, 319379, 319380, 319382, 319383, 319386.
319424*, 319431*, 319434*, 319442, 319448*, 319450*, 319456*, 319458*.
Class 333s:
333001, 333002, 333003, 333004, 333005, 333006, 333007, 333008, 333009, 333010, 333011, 333012, 333013, 333014, 333015, 333016.
If anybody notices any mistakes, please let me know.
Almost a yesr into the franchise not much progress.
Is there a required by completion date?
K
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I assume there are penalties for late completion, but the only real deadline is 31/12/2019 for the DDA stuff.
There is most definitely a real deadline for completion of the refurbishments, with some very minor exceptions for cascaded in stock and repainting of 319s, it is 31st December 2019.
james2trains
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Does anyone have any photos of the interiors? I've only had the luck of the refurbished 158752, and that wasn't too great.
mikemcniven
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156471 back in service on the Liverpool to Oxford Road service today
Had a ride on 319362 yesterday. Exactly the same inside bar the loo and some juggling of seats. Interior colour scheme now doesn't match exterior.
Exterior very shiny and very bland (hoping they don't take too long to get the details on there). . Too much like GTR IMO.
Exterior very shiny and very bland (hoping they don't take too long to get the details on there). . Too much like GTR IMO.
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I had a ride on refurbished 156471 today from Irlam to LLS. It seems to have had the full job. Internally it had dark blue panels below the windows, otherwise everything else is pure white. Seat cushions and backs seem to be new. The cushions are thickly padded but too hard. I seemed to be sitting about 5cms higher than before, which gives a commanding view out of the windows. Hopefully the seats will soften in time. The seat frames and arm rests are unchanged. The tables are new or newly surfaced. The carpets are the Arriva Northern pattern from two franchises ago, new under the seats, but I wasn't sure if they were new in the aisles as they looked a bit faded and could have been just thoroughly cleaned.
Overall, I think passengers will be satisfied. The PIS was showing only final destination, presumably awaiting software, and pleasingly there were no automated announcements.
The least satisfactory aspect for me was the uninteresting and absurdly impractical white livery outside. It reminded me of those characterless white units you see in London and East Anglia. Common sense might prevail in time.
However it was nice to get back to a 319 for my journey back to Preston! By the way, a white 319 pulled out of LLS as I arrived but I don't know if it was in service or testing.
copernicium112
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Any ideas on whether 319361/362/448 will be coming to any of the Manchester stations today?