Chiltern Mainline LHCS

[Techniquest]

I wouldn't worry if I were you. The last few times I've been on the loco hauled sets, the seats have beven worn out. Travelling with a spring sticking up your jacksie takes the shine off the experience; the carriages either need a refurb or scrapping. 168s are more comfortable.

Never had that experience thankfully on the MK3s, and 168s are definitely not more comfortable. They make a LM 170 feel comfortable...

 

[Bletchleyite]

Never had that experience thankfully on the MK3s, and 168s are definitely not more comfortable. They make a LM 170 feel comfortable...

As they have the same seat foams[1], just different covers, I'm surprised you'd think they were any different?

[1] They're actually different bases - the LM ones use the heavyweight painted metal ones and the CH ones the cheaper plastic-covered variety - but the foams are identical so I've never noticed a difference in comfort.

 

[Minilad]

I have wondered this, and it doesn't seem to be written anywhere. Anyone know?

From my experience 1st class tickets are valid in there yes. I travelled three times in there on a 1st class ALR and had no problems from any of the ticket inspections

 

[berneyarms]

Same experience with a 1st Class BritRail pass - no issues at all.

 

[FQ]

Thanks guys!

 

[MrCub]

1st class in 'Business' zone is no problem. Use such a ticket very recently. Very pleasant trip it was too.