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The Andover Fist 5th nov 2016

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London Waterloo (pu) - Woking (pu) - Basingstoke - Northam Junction - Southampton Eastern Docks - QE2 Terminal (rev) - Northam Junction (rev) - Southampton Central - Totton - Matchwood - Fawley (NR Limit) (rev) - Matchwood - Totton - Southampton Central - Eastleigh - Romsey - Salisbury (break/rev) - Andover - Ludgershall (rev) - Andover - Basingstoke - Woking (sd) - London Waterloo

from the railway herald website

railtour info dosnt list the tour on their site so was wondering if anyone had any more info as was planning to catch it somwhere on the fawley line if possible :)
 
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lots of people would be interested in going down the fawley line id imagine due to the rarity of tours going down there
 

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lots of people would be interested in going down the fawley line id imagine due to the rarity of tours going down there

Any timings as I would like to see the railtour on the Marchwood branch. Incidentially the oil refinery is no longer served by rail, campaigners are trying to save the branch....this railtour could be the very last train to Fawley as only the military sidings at Cracknore Hard are currently in use
 

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Any timings as I would like to see the railtour on the Marchwood branch. Incidentially the oil refinery is no longer served by rail, campaigners are trying to save the branch....this railtour could be the very last train to Fawley as only the military sidings at Cracknore Hard are currently in use

How often is the line towards Ludgershall used these days seeing as the camp has closed (with most of the area flatten for houses)?
 

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thanks for the timings :)

can you get on any stations on the line? as ive heard there is 1 station where the signal box is still maned to open the gates manually, or if not is there a good vantage point somwhere
 
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thanks for the timings :)

can you get on any stations on the line? as ive heard there is 1 station where the signal box is still maned to open the gates manually, or if not is there a good vantage point somwhere

Also thanks for timings, the station would be Marchwood, where there are full width traditional level crossing gates, controlled by the adjacent signal box, and a set of semaphore signals as well
 

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The front carriage has been reported as derailing on the Eastern Docks Branch approaching Canute Road :(
 
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NR staff are on site, inspecting the train and track. It seems that the leading carriage (a generator vehicle) is off the rails.
 

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Reported on board as rear bogie of the generator car and front bogie of the first dining car off the road. NR and BTP on scene but no news yet on whether any of the remaining schedule will be possible :(
 

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Front two coaches are off the rails the leading 66 is still on the rails.
Report from reliable source.
 

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Derailed coach A now being evacuated, remaining coaches and rear loco will return to Eastleigh where it will terminate. Return to Woking and Waterloo by SWT service trains.
 

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Derailed coach A now being evacuated, remaining coaches and rear loco will return to Eastleigh where it will terminate. Return to Woking and Waterloo by SWT service trains.

When we eventually get moving. Calling additionally at Southampton Airport for slightly more choice of train.

Replacement driver caught in traffic
 
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just come back from Marchwood, where the signal box is still manned despite on average traffic is 1 1/2 trains per week to serve the military sidings.Report is that the leading loco spread the tracks and the first carriage off the rails. Expect the tour to be terminated, but hopefully will be run again.

Hopes that the line may be saved as far as Dibden if a proposed development goes ahead and the developers are prepared to invest in the railway
 
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just come back from Marchwood, where the signal box is still manned despite on average traffic is 1 1/2 trains per week to serve the military sidings.Report is that the leading loco spread the tracks and the first carriage off the rails. Expect the tour to be terminated, but hopefully will be run again.

Hopes that the line may be saved as far as Dibden if a proposed development goes ahead and the developers are prepared to invest in the railway

On the move - having stood for 3hrs 40 says a mate on the train......
 

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i was at marchwood aswell and guy said the tour was cancelled so hopefully it will run at a later date

what an interesting turn of events tho
 

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Finally terminated at Eastleigh at 14:30, less one first class diner and the generator car, left behind on the Docks branch.

UKR said they would email ticket holders asap, and hoping to rerun the trip on some future date.
 

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I bailed alongside others at Southampton Airport and the first Waterloo service was busy in the front coaches but the rear coach was around 75% full which was a pleasant surprise.
 

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Sheet. Any news on why it could've happened? Surely a lot of the freight on those lines is significantly heavier than passenger?
 

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spark001uk said:
Sheet. Any news on why it could've happened? Surely a lot of the freight on those lines is significantly heavier than passenger?
The rails spread due to the sleepers being rotten and giving way. It is probably just the case that the charter was the final straw for the crumbling sleepers, as the tour passed an ex-Eastern Docks car train at Eastleigh.
 

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The rails spread due to the sleepers being rotten and giving way. It is probably just the case that the charter was the final straw for the crumbling sleepers, as the tour passed an ex-Eastern Docks car train at Eastleigh.

On the bright side, at least the rails spread due to rotten sleepers happened on the way into the docks rather than heading back out trapping the remaining carriages dock side.
 

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On the bright side, at least the rails spread due to rotten sleepers happened on the way into the docks rather than heading back out trapping the remaining carriages dock side.

And blocking Canute Road crossing for 4 hours! <D
 

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On the bright side, at least the rails spread due to rotten sleepers happened on the way into the docks rather than heading back out trapping the remaining carriages dock side.

I guess if that were the case the pax would've been decanted into buses to the station. So this stretch of track I assume NR are responsible for then? Not wanting to apportion blame, just curious.
 

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I assume the derailment is on approach to Southampton Eastern Docks looking at RTT, and several freight trains destined for the docks have been cancelled.

So the track is used , albeit not a lot, so could cause problems ..?
 

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The track is used multiple times a day, I've been held up at Canute Road level crossing more times than I care to remember.
 
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