Hull Trains' 222 Pioneers to EMT?

[WillPS]

Simply - is this happening or not? And if so, when?

Will they be refurbed (effectively becoming Meridians) or will they remain different internally to the rest of the EMT fleet?

 

[Stonesourscotty]

More importantly is there anything in Writing?

 

[222001]

There was an online magazine, cant remember what it was called, Tim Shoveller basically said that they are getting the Hull Trains Pioneers but not in time to run the Corby services. He also said they have NOT BEEN SIGNED FOR yet but an agreement was in place. He then went on to say that they would need some "mods" before entering services. That was about a month ago now.

Somehow I feel the agreement might have broken down. It's problems for EMT though as they need intercity stock to run the Corby services and they need to be fast accelerating trains because they need to diagram share with the Sheffield services. Unless when they get enough trains for the Corby services they will stop sharing with the Sheffield services.

 

[Mintona]

Yeah, it's all official, all gonna happen.

 

[222001]

Yeah, it's all official, all gonna happen.

Any idea when the first one will be arrive then? In the new year some time I think.

 

[Wayfarer Sam]

The first two units are due to enter service in late January, First group have insisted that they are to be painted before entering service, as 4 car units they will be used mainly on the corby shuttles when they start in march.

 

[222001]

The first two units are due to enter service in late January, First group have insisted that they are to be painted before entering service, as 4 car units they will be used mainly on the corby shuttles when they start in march.

Do you mean Corby-Kettering shuttles? As Sheffield and Corby diagrams share you wouldn't want a 4 car train on a Sheffield service.

 

[Wayfarer Sam]

Thats right. The Corby - Kettering. I don't know the exact details, To be honest I don't think many people do. I am just going by what has been published to us.

 

[P156KWJ]

Why do they need to be painted? We need them in service!

 

[adc82140]

First probably don't want trains running around in their livery that they have no control over, for example the former FGE now NXEA 360s were stripped of all First decals. However that doesn't stop NXEA hiring in that FSR class 90 Funny that they haven't insisted on Northern reapinting the 180s though.

Anyway we've all seen how quickly EMT managed to paint their existing 222s

 

[Techniquest]

Quickly?! I disagree! I was amazed how many were left to do in July!

 

[adc82140]

Well, quickly compared to ATW 158s

 

[class 313]

First probably don't want trains running around in their livery that they have no control over, for example the former FGE now NXEA 360s were stripped of all First decals. However that doesn't stop NXEA hiring in that FSR class 90 Funny that they haven't insisted on Northern reapinting the 180s though.

Anyway we've all seen how quickly EMT managed to paint their existing 222s

The first decals have been removed from the 180s have they not?

 

[MCR247]

not completely i dont think

 

[Techniquest]

Well, quickly compared to ATW 158s

True enough that, although why they've not done any more is a mystery to me. Maybe there's to be a random change of mind over the colour scheme?

 

[Bayum]

not completely i dont think

I think they have... The ones I seen up north definitely have anyways

 

[P156KWJ]

First probably don't want trains running around in their livery that they have no control over, for example the former FGE now NXEA 360s were stripped of all First decals. However that doesn't stop NXEA hiring in that FSR class 90 Funny that they haven't insisted on Northern reapinting the 180s though.

Anyway we've all seen how quickly EMT managed to paint their existing 222s

it's free advertising, what more could you want?! And besides, does the average commuter give a monkeys what colour their train is? We have train liveries coming out of our ears here and we don't notice!