Airline safety briefing do you listen?

[Clip]

The only one worth paying attention to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&v=7-Mq9HAE62Y&gl=GB

 

[Howardh]

It's Jet A-1 which is similar to paraffin, which is basically the same thing as kerosene, is it not?

Hands up - no idea. Got an "E" at chemistry!!
Question, if it's the same, why the different names? Anyone??
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Careful what you wish for, I can see a future where the pilots will stay on the ground; flying by remore control as with drones. Or maybe total computer control.
Would the high speed airflow around the nose tend to deflect birds away from the window? Any aerodynamicists out there know the answer?

(a) would love a system where if a pilot collapses (or has suicide on his/her mind) ATC could take over remotely. That COULD save lives?? An argument is remote control by ground staff is safer, as if one collapses control could be passed to someone in the next room. Or the tea-lady

(b) deflect birds into the engine??

 

[Bletchleyite]

Hands up - no idea. Got an "E" at chemistry!!
Question, if it's the same, why the different names? Anyone??
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One's normally UK and one US I think?

 

[Howardh]

One's normally UK and one US I think?

The US one must be for planes that drive on the right....
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Ah, just had a brainwave - ask Dad, he used to be an aircraft engineer. Immediately says "same thing" but the impurities are removed from paraffin to make kerocine.

Can't argue with that!

 

[edwin_m]

Generally not. There is a story about how those are tested - firing chickens into them from a specialised gun.

Is that the story about when someone forgot to specify whether the chicken was fresh or frozen?
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(a) would love a system where if a pilot collapses (or has suicide on his/her mind) ATC could take over remotely. That COULD save lives?? An argument is remote control by ground staff is safer, as if one collapses control could be passed to someone in the next room. Or the tea-lady

(b) deflect birds into the engine??

I've heard many stories of bird strikes on the engines, the most famous probably being the ditching in the Hudson a few years back, but none of birds breaking the windscreen and incapacitating the pilots. So my suspicion is if it happens it isn't terminal for the windscreen, though it may be for the bird. The difference may be to do with the fact that the plane pushes the air in front of the windscreen out of the way, but the air in front of the engines is sucked into them.

All commercial flights other than the very smallest aircraft have to have two qualified pilots, which addresses the risk of one of them being taken ill. It should also largely address the risk of one of them deciding to take over the plane, especially if another member of crew replaces them in the cockpit if they have to leave (as didn't happen with the deliberate crash in the Alps).

Having remote control from ATC raises its own hazards, not least that of a suicidal or terrorist gaining control of the ATC console, taking over and crashing multiple aircraft.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Is that the story about when someone forgot to specify whether the chicken was fresh or frozen?

That's the one, the bit about frozen chickens is probably apocryphal, though.

 

[DaleCooper]

That's the one, the bit about frozen chickens is probably apocryphal, though.

Chickens don't usually fly very high anyway.

 

[Howardh]

Chickens don't usually fly very high anyway.

Well they won't if they're frozen.

 

[edwin_m]

Well they won't if they're frozen.

They'll be frozen if they fly as high as planes do.

I suppose the worst possible bird strike would be hitting an ostrich. But fortunately that's unlikely at altitudes above five feet.

 

[DaleCooper]

They'll be frozen if they fly as high as planes do.

I suppose the worst possible bird strike would be hitting an ostrich. But fortunately that's unlikely at altitudes above five feet.

I nearly suffered a bird strike this afternoon, a mute swan protecting its cygnets. I was only walking past. At about 10kg you wouldn't want one of them hitting a plane.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Is that the story about when someone forgot to specify whether the chicken was fresh or frozen?

I've heard that one; I've also heard the cat story...

 

[Howardh]

I nearly suffered a bird strike this afternoon, a mute swan protecting its cygnets. I was only walking past. At about 10kg you wouldn't want one of them hitting a plane.

Nothing. On my nearest lodge I tried to take some snaps of some goslings. But mum wasn't having any of it, and every print had her angry face stuffed against my lens grrr...
gave up and just left my camera on the floor to do a video of them feeding. Didn't work either, they just went round the back.