Voyager saloon doors over sensitive?

[387star]

I was caught off guard last Friday as I was making my way into coach D

The interior saloon door closed on me with quite a force... Enough that it was unpleasent and painful

It does seem these doors often shut on people is there not a way to adjust them as other doors do not seem to be a problem...

 

[Mugby]

I don't think sensitivity enters into it, surely the interior doors close after a standard time interval?

 

[387star]

Actually perhaps I meant under sensitivity

But anyway they should sense someone before they try and close/push on you?

 

[fgwrich]

"Sensitivity" for Voyager internal doors seems to be something of an ironic nature, as they seem to open or nearly open themselves just from going around curves where an cant in the track is present. The line from Oxford to Birmingham and south Devon banks seems to do this to them quite a lot!

 

[Flying Snail]

Actually perhaps I meant under sensitivity

But anyway they should sense someone before they try and close/push on you?

Unlike the old-fashioned and only fit for the scrap-heap MkIII's they replaced the voyagers doors have no sensors, they just close a set time after being opened. They are just a really badly designed feature on a train full of bad design features.

 

[Sparks807Evo]

Yep no sensors fitted IIRC - had them shut on me with luggage countless times. Considering virtually all other Bombardier products have sensors, it is rather incredible the Voyagers don't! Hopefully, if they ever get a refurb, the issue will be resolved.

 

[Spartacus]

Even a basic floor pressure sensor would work, above door sensors regularly seem to be hit & miss. As it is I just wedge a foot up against one side and that seems to do the job!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

If you think being whacked by a Voyager door is bad, believe me it is nothing compared to being whacked by the spring loaded doors that were fitted to the earlier versions of Mk2 carriage of the pre-pressure pad generation.

 

[chubs]

Unlike the old-fashioned and only fit for the scrap-heap MkIII's they replaced the voyagers doors have no sensors, they just close a set time after being opened. They are just a really badly designed feature on a train full of bad design features.

The doors on the mkIII's in Anglia land merrily slide open and closed of their own will throughout the journey and have done since they were introduced here. That's if they are working and not locked open.

It's lovely being subjected to constant draft.

 

[furnessvale]

If you think being whacked by a Voyager door is bad, believe me it is nothing compared to being whacked by the spring loaded doors that were fitted to the earlier versions of Mk2 carriage of the pre-pressure pad generation.

And before them some first generation DMUs were even worse!

 

[gimmea50anyday]

The weight of the voyager doors don't help. The split doors perform far better than the single sliding doors which don't hold closed, as said above, poor design. This is what happens when no one bothers to approach the front line staff and ask them what works and what doesn't. This is also the folly of asking aircraft engineers to design a train. Apparently that was beardy's idea!

 

[PHILIPE]

I complained to XC a few years ago re being struck by the closing doors. All I got back was a vague answer saying that's how they were built.

 

[talltim]

They make a nice loud clicking noise if you attempt to stop them closing. Another poor bit of design is that on some of them, the button is behind the seat/luggage rack/toilet wall when they are open, so you can't get to it as they start closing.
The 222s have a floor mounted button as well as the door ones