Trivia: Station with most stops at other stations

[scrapy]

I make at least 327 destinations from Manchester Piccadilly with at least a five services a week. There are also at least 16 stations which have services to Piccadilly but not from Piccadilly.

This doesn't include metrolink stations which would considerably add to that number.

 

[ijmad]

Can we be cheeky and count London Waterloo, Waterloo East and its underground station together?

- Around 200 stations on SWT's network most of which have trains to/from Waterloo
- Another 100 or so reachable on Southeastern's network from Waterloo East
- 24 other Bakerloo line stations
- 25 other Jubilee Line station
- 41 other Northern Line stations reachable without changing
- 1 Waterloo & City Line station

Total ~400 possible destinations.

 

[krus_aragon]

I did some manual calculation, which has Birmingham at approx 270 stations, Leeds at 210.

Birmingham:
XC 37 SW, 12 SE, 6NW, 18E, 39NE.
VT 6 South, 10 North
AW 42 Cambrian, 25 C. Coast
LMI: 41 on Cross-City, and 32 on all other lines

Did you get the Cambrian Mainline, Cambrian Coast, and North Wales Coast for Arriva? I make it 57 or them, without counting stations east of Shrewsbury.

 

[Quakkerillo]

Did you get the Cambrian Mainline, Cambrian Coast, and North Wales Coast for Arriva? I make it 57 or them, without counting stations east of Shrewsbury.

In that case, I merely wrongly named them. I had a total of 67 for both Arriva routes. "Cambrian coast" should be the North Wales coast. I added the stations to Shrewsbury into Arriva as well, which is 10. So that makes it 57+10.

 

[Deepgreen]

I've just counted it up for London Bridge. I found the following:

• Stations which presently have a through service from London Bridge by National Rail: 245
• Stations which would presently have a service from London Bridge if not for the damage between Folkestone and Dover: 5
• Stations which would have through services from London Bridge if the present Engineering works were not occurring: 21
• Stations which presently have Underground through services from London Bridge but not NR services: 14 (4 would have NR through services if the present engineering works were not occurring)
• Stations which have services to London Bridge but not from London Bridge: 19

This gives London Bridge a total of 300 if all of these are included.
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London Bridge will gain many more once the expanded Thameslink network starts operating.

I don't know where the figure of 14 Underground stations comes from - I think it's 66 from the Northern (City) and Jubilee althogether.

 

[JamesRowden]

I don't know where the figure of 14 Underground stations comes from - I think it's 66 from the Northern (City) and Jubilee althogether.

I assumed that this thread only referred to direct services to National Rail stations.

I counted Kings Cross and St Pancras as separate stations (so contributed 2). In your system would it count as 1, 2 or 3?

 

[Deepgreen]

I assumed that this thread only referred to direct services to National Rail stations.

I counted Kings Cross and St Pancras as separate stations (so contributed 2). In your system would it count as 1, 2 or 3?

You may be right about NR stations (althought the OP didn't include or exclude them) - in which case it is 14, if including KX and St. P separately, Southwark for Waterloo East and Canada Water for London Overground. It does call into question the possible expansion of the trivia to include non-NR stations, though!
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After a quick (and therefore probably slightly inaccurate) totting up, I make Clapham Junction in the region of 400 stations served by SWT, Southern and LO scheduled services.

 

[W230]

I assumed that this thread only referred to direct services to National Rail stations.

I counted Kings Cross and St Pancras as separate stations (so contributed 2). In your system would it count as 1, 2 or 3?

Yep. Separate stations and not including underground was my thinking...

 

[Iskra]

I did some manual calculation, which has Birmingham at approx 270 stations, Leeds at 210.

Birmingham:
XC 37 SW, 12 SE, 6NW, 18E, 39NE.
VT 6 South, 10 North
AW 42 Cambrian, 25 C. Coast
LMI: 41 on Cross-City, and 32 on all other lines

Leeds:
XC: 48
VTEC: 8
EMT: 9
FTP: 22
NT: 12 Harrogate, 6 to Hull/York, 36 heading to Doncaster/Sheffield/Goole, 24 to Hudd/Manch, 40 to Carlisle/Heysham, and 9 to Blackpool.

Hoping I missed nothing, but unless it's something big, I think Birmingham wins this.
And I only counted each station once. So Wolverhampton doesn't count 4 times.

For Leeds, there are an additional 15 on the Southport-Leeds service.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Yep. Separate stations and not including underground was my thinking...

Though aren't the Thameslink platforms classed as part of St. Pancras but not KX? Either way they either don't technically serve the Cross at all, or they serve it at the same time as St. Pancras, I.e. With the same single call. I don't see how it could be seen as two stations if served via Thameslink in any logical fashion, so the only stations which could currently be seen as serving BOTH as two separate stations would be York (summer only?), Leeds, Wakefield Westgate, Doncaster and Lincoln.
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For Leeds, there are an additional 15 on the Southport-Leeds service.

Leeds is served BY those stations, but those stations aren't served direct FROM Leeds.

 

[JamesRowden]

Though aren't the Thameslink platforms classed as part of St. Pancras but not KX? Either way they either don't technically serve the Cross at all, or they serve it at the same time as St. Pancras, I.e. With the same single call. I don't see how it could be seen as two stations if served via Thameslink in any logical fashion, so the only stations which could currently be seen as serving BOTH as two separate stations would be York (summer only?), Leeds, Wakefield Westgate, Doncaster and Lincoln.
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Leeds is served BY those stations, but those stations aren't served direct FROM Leeds.

The City Branch of the Northern Line offers a through service between London Bridge and effectively both stations.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

The City Branch of the Northern Line offers a through service between London Bridge and effectively both stations.

Yes, but only because one tube station serves both mainline stations, just like Thameslink does. My argument is that if the train stops ONCE at ONE platform then for the point of this thread it should be counted as serving ONE station, regardless of how many other stations that one platform is an interchange for.

 

[crispy1978]

I bet Inverness will be deceptively higher than expected!

 

[W230]

Yes, but only because one tube station serves both mainline stations, just like Thameslink does. My argument is that if the train stops ONCE at ONE platform then for the point of this thread it should be counted as serving ONE station, regardless of how many other stations that one platform is an interchange for.

Spot on. I wasn't including Kings Cross or any of its services. TL only stops at St Pancras at present so none of the station on the GN can be included yet.