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No one is going to wire the Cotswold Line until XC wiring goes ahead so there is 25kv overhead in place around Worcester. You can't justify the expense that would be needed there just for the Cotswold Line trains, same as wiring Swindon to Gloucester and Cheltenham makes no sense unless lots of other services in the area can be operated with electric traction.

Can't agree with you on wiring Swindon-Gloucester-Severn Tunnel Junction. It is a diversion route for Paddington-Cardiff when Severn Tunnel is closed at weekends for maintenance. There is an hourly Gloucester-Swindon shuttle and Cardiff-Cheltenham all station stoppers use stock from the Valleys that will most likely become EMUs after the Valleys are electrified.
 
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Err, yes.

I do still think that it would be better to have minimal parking at the station rather than a MSCP. Some amount of parking will always be required for accessibility purposes but I think we should really try to ensure that as few people are driving into this built-up area as possible. Car parks in city centres are glorious wastes of space that could be used for far more productive uses with a significantly lower environmental impact. If, for instance, all trains to Oxford called at parkway stations located on the bypasses to the north and south of the city then there would be very few people who would be disadvantaged by removing the parking at the main station. As speeds would be low on the approach to the city, the journey time impact of adding an additional call near the Redbridge Park and Ride would be less than it would normally, while for many people it would actually reduce their end-to-end journey time as a result of not needing to get out of the city centre or double back.

Railway infrastructure isn't about social engineering though. By the time you allocate a footprint for a small car park, you might as well build up for the revenue it brings. Beckett Street income goes to GWR. Redbridge would go to the Council.

I borrowed a Golf GTE this weekend, last weekend I had a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV for a test drive.

All the way into central Oxford and back to my "secret" 2-hour free parking space in silence - the petrol engine didn't start once. Got to keep your wits about you though - not every pedestrian is accustomed to silent cars.
 

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Railway infrastructure isn't about social engineering though. By the time you allocate a footprint for a small car park, you might as well build up for the revenue it brings. Beckett Street income goes to GWR. Redbridge would go to the Council.

I borrowed a Golf GTE this weekend, last weekend I had a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV for a test drive.

All the way into central Oxford and back to my "secret" 2-hour free parking space in silence - the petrol engine didn't start once. Got to keep your wits about you though - not every pedestrian is accustomed to silent cars.

I think my idea can be described as being a more long term vision. It would not surprise me in the least if a few decades down the line, the MSCP is torn down again and replaced by an office or accommodation block simply because that would provide more income for that plot of land. If the first floor is raised up, then the minimal amount of parking you need to provide for disabled people could be located underneath.

If an Oxford South Parkway station were built at Redbridge then there would need to be quite a bit of extra car parking space provided. How it would be funded I don't yet know, but if GWR work out that it would be a worthwhile investment to provide more spaces then they'll do it. Otherwise, extra commuters wanting to park and ride may find Chiltern's service to be worthwhile if they can guarantee a parking space.

I hope that the Cowley branch line would be reopened with the possibility of reopening back to Princes Risborough in mind. Even if it wouldn't be funded initially, it would help make Wheatley and Thame into more sustainable commuter towns for Oxford. Add in an M40 parkway station and that'll put vast swathes of otherwise-unreachable Chiltern towns and villages on the map for the railway network.
 

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I hope that the Cowley branch line would be reopened with the possibility of reopening back to Princes Risborough in mind. Even if it wouldn't be funded initially, it would help make Wheatley and Thame into more sustainable commuter towns for Oxford. Add in an M40 parkway station and that'll put vast swathes of otherwise-unreachable Chiltern towns and villages on the map for the railway network.

Not this old chestnut again, seriously let go of the pipe dream of opening back to Princes Risborough as it isnt going to happen. Look at GoogleMaps and see just how much of the line is built on in Wheatley, Oxford services and Tiddington and then trying to get Sustrans to move off the line between Thame and Princes Risborough, even Chiltern dropped it as an idea.
 

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I am afraid Jimm that you have made up your mind and not open to any discussion whatsoever!

Hanborough even with 50,000 based on your figures still only warrants 2tph all day frequency. My local station has 5tph all day frequency with a population of 150,000 doubtless both places are still growing.

As for saying there is no demand to use a train the size of a Class 800 that could be said of my own station however once it reaches its final pick up point before London there is plenty of need for them.

I wasn't aware there was a magic formula for determining what service is warranted at a particular station based on population - perhaps you could point us in its direction?

Does your magic formula take into account appalling and ever-worsening traffic congestion around Oxford, which makes it faster for people to drive from Witney to Hanborough and catch a train into Oxford than just to drive all the way into Oxford?

Some of us know this line and know the area and know what we are talking about - and have seen Hanborough go in a very short space of time from being a station that did indeed pretty much serve just the village, to something else entirely - and 40 years ago it was just regarded as another West Oxfordshire halt, with the same level of service as Combe and Finstock.

Sorry, but I thought you were talking about the halts trains, which will never, if operating just between Oxford and Worcester, as will be the case again post-electrification, need to be worked by a train with 300+ seats. Unlike the trains running between Hereford/Worcester and London, which will, and will need more seats in the peaks - all of which is already being planned for by GWR for 2017 onwards. The proposals revealed on Friday are all about what you do in CP6 to maintain the momentum - and all along the line, not just at Hanborough.

Can't agree with you on wiring Swindon-Gloucester-Severn Tunnel Junction. It is a diversion route for Paddington-Cardiff when Severn Tunnel is closed at weekends for maintenance. There is an hourly Gloucester-Swindon shuttle and Cardiff-Cheltenham all station stoppers use stock from the Valleys that will most likely become EMUs after the Valleys are electrified.

I think you misunderstand my point. Just wiring Swindon to Gloucester/Cheltenham in isolation, even for the post-electrification timetable with an hourly Class 800 to/from London is simply not viable. Once the XC corridor between Birmingham and Bristol is wired, then doing Gloucester-Severn Tunnel Junction and Swindon-Standish Junction become obvious add-ons as well, given all the diesel workings you could then switch to electric operation. And if the Worcester area has wires in conjunction with an XC scheme, then Oxford-Worcester also looks a whole lot more attractive for electrification.
 
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Not this old chestnut again, seriously let go of the pipe dream of opening back to Princes Risborough as it isnt going to happen. Look at GoogleMaps and see just how much of the line is built on in Wheatley, Oxford services and Tiddington and then trying to get Sustrans to move off the line between Thame and Princes Risborough, even Chiltern dropped it as an idea.

Reopening doesn't need to mean following the old route. If you skirt the southern edge of Wheatley, the amount of demolition required would be relatively minimal. It's the vague concept of reopening that matters, not the precise historical accuracy of the route.

Without any other pressures, there's no reason to reopen the line. However, if there's to be a sustainable way of continuing to expand Oxford as a centre for technology-focused companies then there's going to need to be some way to house all the staff who'll be working there. If new homes are to be built, the least disagreeable way to do it for everyone is to focus new development around railways. If, for instance, the old route through Wheatley were used, then the scope to add homes without them being those horrible edge-of-town developments which end up being car-dependent is limited. With the railway to the south, the station could be the focal point of the new housing, with reasonably high densities and pedestrian/cyclist routes designed to encourage people to walk to the station and town centre rather than driving there and needing to park. That's just how Shawfair on the Borders Railway is designed, as a new suburban district of Edinburgh focused around the railway station. It's also what's happening to a lesser extent at Armadale on the Airdrie-Bathgate route. When you're reopening a line which provides a commuter route to a city with high-value jobs, it's really not the hardest thing in the world to fill up the area around the stations with lots of homes.

Also, Sustrans isn't the sort of organisation that would block the reopening or opening of a railway line. If the southern end of Thame saw massive house building focused around the railway, it would be easy to provide state-of-the-art cycle paths to replace any sections which would have to be lost to the railway. Outside of built-up areas, the cycle tracks can be shifted to the side, as the amount of land take needed is minimal. Since more land than is actually needed for two tracks ends up needing to be bought anyway, putting in a cycle path at the side of the new railway line wouldn't be a challenge.

The Oxford-Princes Risborough route also has an advantage in terms of being suitable for development in that there would be commuter flows in both directions, just like the Airdrie-Bathgate route. That means good loadings on services in both directions, and providing the option helps with families where the two partners work in the two separate cities. As Oxford gets stronger, the chances of families having employment locations split this way increases, which increases the value of places where it is equally possible to commute to both. Housing developments to the west and north of Oxford wouldn't benefit from the same effect, as commuting to London would be a much more time-consuming and expensive process.
 

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Reopening doesn't need to mean following the old route. If you skirt the southern edge of Wheatley, the amount of demolition required would be relatively minimal. It's the vague concept of reopening that matters, not the precise historical accuracy of the route.

Without any other pressures, there's no reason to reopen the line. However, if there's to be a sustainable way of continuing to expand Oxford as a centre for technology-focused companies then there's going to need to be some way to house all the staff who'll be working there. If new homes are to be built, the least disagreeable way to do it for everyone is to focus new development around railways. If, for instance, the old route through Wheatley were used, then the scope to add homes without them being those horrible edge-of-town developments which end up being car-dependent is limited. With the railway to the south, the station could be the focal point of the new housing, with reasonably high densities and pedestrian/cyclist routes designed to encourage people to walk to the station and town centre rather than driving there and needing to park. That's just how Shawfair on the Borders Railway is designed, as a new suburban district of Edinburgh focused around the railway station. It's also what's happening to a lesser extent at Armadale on the Airdrie-Bathgate route. When you're reopening a line which provides a commuter route to a city with high-value jobs, it's really not the hardest thing in the world to fill up the area around the stations with lots of homes.

Also, Sustrans isn't the sort of organisation that would block the reopening or opening of a railway line. If the southern end of Thame saw massive house building focused around the railway, it would be easy to provide state-of-the-art cycle paths to replace any sections which would have to be lost to the railway. Outside of built-up areas, the cycle tracks can be shifted to the side, as the amount of land take needed is minimal. Since more land than is actually needed for two tracks ends up needing to be bought anyway, putting in a cycle path at the side of the new railway line wouldn't be a challenge.

The Oxford-Princes Risborough route also has an advantage in terms of being suitable for development in that there would be commuter flows in both directions, just like the Airdrie-Bathgate route. That means good loadings on services in both directions, and providing the option helps with families where the two partners work in the two separate cities. As Oxford gets stronger, the chances of families having employment locations split this way increases, which increases the value of places where it is equally possible to commute to both. Housing developments to the west and north of Oxford wouldn't benefit from the same effect, as commuting to London would be a much more time-consuming and expensive process.

It's just not going to happen. If you want to talk about this tedious fantasy again, please start another thread for it - it has nothing to do with further developing the Cotswold Line over the next decade.
 

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I think you misunderstand my point. Just wiring Swindon to Gloucester/Cheltenham in isolation, even for the post-electrification timetable with an hourly Class 800 to/from London is simply not viable. Once the XC corridor between Birmingham and Bristol is wired, then doing Gloucester-Severn Tunnel Junction and Swindon-Standish Junction become obvious add-ons as well, given all the diesel workings you could then switch to electric operation. And if the Worcester area has wires in conjunction with an XC scheme, then Oxford-Worcester also looks a whole lot more attractive for electrification.

But the converse is also true. Wiring Swindon-Gloucester-STJ would make Paddington-Worcester via Gloucester more viable and in turn XC.
 

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But the converse is also true. Wiring Swindon-Gloucester-STJ would make Paddington-Worcester via Gloucester more viable and in turn XC.

No it's not. No one is going to wire those routes for one train an hour each way and a few extensions of Paddington-Cheltenham trains to get to and from the stabling sidings in Worcester, plus the odd weekend of diversions - especially with something as complicated as the Gloucester triangle and station area in the middle of it all - never mind the Worcester area and triangle, where it will probably take XC and Snow Hill lines/Bromsgrove route wiring to justify the outlay.

You have to achieve critical mass to make the cost of electrifying worthwhile - and that means the XC route has to come first as it is the key operator in the Gloucester/Cheltenham area and on the Bristol-Gloucestershire-Birmingham corridor.
 

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Reopening doesn't need to mean following the old route. If you skirt the southern edge of Wheatley, the amount of demolition required would be relatively minimal. It's the vague concept of reopening that matters, not the precise historical accuracy of the route.

Again, look at GoogleMaps and see how steep the valley Wheatley is in.
 

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Ho ho ho! "Great Western Railway’s managing director, Mark Hopwood, said: 'We want to be bold – world-class counties like Oxfordshire, Worcestershire and Gloucestershire need a world-class railway.'” World-class counties indeed! Time to put all counties into their appropriate classes and decide what sort of railway each one "needs". Pacer-land would be a good starting-point.
 

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train operator Great Western Railway’s managing director, Mark Hopwood, said: “We want to be bold – world-class counties like Oxfordshire, Worcestershire and Gloucestershire need a world-class railway.

Well Mark a good start would be improving some of the easy links within or between these counties. I mean one train timed for 75mph operation every two hours between Malvern/Worcester-Cheltenham/Gloucester-Bristol really isn't good enough is it? The infrastructure doesn't need upgrading to run an hourly, faster service, just a few better trains. Likewise the first direct northbound train from Yate and Cam & Dursley doesn't get to Cheltenham till 9.46 or Worcester till 10.17 (and that includes Bristol as well). Not really world class, or likely to get commuters off the M5 is it Mark?
 
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Well Mark a good start would be improving some of the easy links within or between these counties. I mean one train timed for 75mph operation every two hours between Malvern/Worcester-Cheltenham/Gloucester-Bristol really isn't good enough is it? The infrastructure doesn't need upgrading to run an hourly, faster service, just a few better trains. Likewise the first direct northbound train from Yate and Cam & Dursley doesn't get to Cheltenham till 9.46 or Worcester till 10.17. Not really world class, or likely to get commuters off the M5 is it Mark?

And for the umpteenth time, the event - and this thread - was about the Cotswold Line, not other bits of GWR-land, reopening fantasies or Oxford's housing 'crisis'.

If you know where the secret store of unused Class 158s is to speed up Bristol-Worcester and increase frequencies, please let Mr Hopwood know - or start another thread suggesting they draw up a plan for that corridor too. Though they might just be able to do something once the 165s get to Bristol...
 
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And for the umpteenth time, the event - and this thread - was about the Cotswold Line, not other bits of GWR-land, reopening fantasies or Oxford's housing 'crisis'.

I was directly responding to Mr Hopwood's quote in the article.
 

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I was directly responding to Mr Hopwood's quote in the article.

And Mr Hopwood was directly talking about the linkage provided by the Cotswold Line through from Worcestershire to the corner of Gloucestershire that the route serves, and Oxfordshire - not other parts of Gloucestershire, never mind to Bristol.
 

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And Mr Hopwood was directly talking about the linkage provided by the Cotswold Line through from Worcestershire to the corner of Gloucestershire that the route serves, and Oxfordshire - not other parts of Gloucestershire, never mind to Bristol.

So the rest of Gloucestershire is not 'world class' then?
 

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So the rest of Gloucestershire is not 'world class' then?

Mr Hopwood might very well make the same remark were he addressing an audience in Cheltenham or Gloucester about them getting an hourly London train by 2019, instead of people needing to use a rattling 150 with a change of train at Swindon every other hour at the moment.

That the service between Worcester and Gloucestershire isn't great and could be better cannot be denied but that wasn't the issue Mr Hopwood was talking about on Friday - and even if you did put on more trains on that corridor, you can't change things like the location of Cheltenham Spa station, which is no use to anyone working in the town centre, who would probably still drive from Worcester even if there was an intercity train every 30 minutes.

Maybe we should just rename this thread 'Talk about anything except plan for further CP6 Cotswold Line improvements'...
 

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There's no shortage of developers trying that at Hanborough, which is much better suited. But as jimm says, Finstock and Combe are pretty unlikely.
How did Finstock and Combe survive not being closed in the 60s?
 

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How did Finstock and Combe survive not being closed in the 60s?

BR did try in the 1960s - closure notices were issued for pretty much everything between Oxford and Worcester at various points bar Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh and Kingham, but while the Worcestershire halts succumbed as bus/road links were generally deemed to be better in the Vale of Evesham, in West Oxfordshire not many of the roads towards Oxford are that direct, so the trains were and still are quicker - assuming you didn't mind the walk to/from Combe and Finstock villages.

And that speed into Oxford is partly why Hanborough and Charlbury are so busy now - including with people from Finstock and Combe who prefer to drive another mile to places where pretty much every train on the route stops.

Had BR got its paperwork in order in the mid-1990s, I doubt Combe and Finstock would have survived. And if full redoubling ever happens, that probably will be the end of the line for both halts. Building four new platforms couldn't be justified on any rational basis.
 

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BR did try in the 1960s - closure notices were issued for pretty much everything between Oxford and Worcester at various points bar Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh and Kingham, but while the Worcestershire halts succumbed as bus/road links were generally deemed to be better in the Vale of Evesham, in West Oxfordshire not many of the roads towards Oxford are that direct, so the trains were and still are quicker - assuming you didn't mind the walk to/from Combe and Finstock villages.

And that speed into Oxford is partly why Hanborough and Charlbury are so busy now - including with people from Finstock and Combe who prefer to drive another mile to places where pretty much every train on the route stops.

Had BR got its paperwork in order in the mid-1990s, I doubt Combe and Finstock would have survived. And if full redoubling ever happens, that probably will be the end of the line for both halts. Building four new platforms couldn't be justified on any rational basis.

Could the services which call there not just run to the existing platform (i.e. a few extra points and bi-directional running with the slight limitation that it would create rather than at least 2 new platforms and associated pedestrian bridges)?

As, assuming that it is double tracked throughout and trains could call at the existing platforms with other trains passing (in either direction) on the other line, the limitation on capacity would not be significant and would still probably provide more capacity than was needed for 3tph in each direction.
 
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Could the services which call there not just run to the existing platform (i.e. a few extra points and bi-directional running with the slight limitation that it would create rather than at least 2 new platforms and associated pedestrian bridges)?

As, assuming that it is double tracked throughout and trains could call at the existing platforms with other trains passing (in either direction) on the other line, the limitation on capacity would not be significant and would still probably provide more capacity than was needed for 3tph in each direction.

If Wikipedia is accurate then the platform at Finstock is built on the site of the old down line so any redoubling would require the removal of that platform.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finstock_railway_station
 
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If Wikipedia is accurate then the platform at Finstock is built on the site of the old down line so any redoubling would require the removal of that platform.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finstock_railway_station

It is indeed, as can be seen here

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Could the services which call there not just run to the existing platform (i.e. a few extra points and bi-directional running with the slight limitation that it would create rather than at least 2 new platforms and associated pedestrian bridges)?

As, assuming that it is double tracked throughout and trains could call at the existing platforms with other trains passing (in either direction) on the other line, the limitation on capacity would not be significant and would still probably provide more capacity than was needed for 3tph in each direction.

No one is going to spend money on platforms or bi-di signals and more points for, as I said above, an average of 15 passengers a day Monday-Friday. There is no need for bridges as both halts were built on the cheap by the GWR and deliberately located near existing road bridges - over the line at Finstock, under the line at Combe.
 
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That the service between Worcester and Gloucestershire isn't great and could be better cannot be denied but that wasn't the issue Mr Hopwood was talking about on Friday - and even if you did put on more trains on that corridor, you can't change things like the location of Cheltenham Spa station, which is no use to anyone working in the town centre, who would probably still drive from Worcester even if there was an intercity train every 30 minutes.

Well taking the traffic problems at rush hour in Cheltenham and lack/cost of parking into account I would much rather do the train and the 5-10 min bike ride on the old GWR trackbed into town.

Moving north given that the money appears to be assigned to David Camerons patch how do they plan to move 2tph through the single line and platforms at Pershore and Worcester Parkway? Even if most train don't stop at either station (which seems pretty unlikely) it's going to be pretty tight to timetable!
 
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Well taking the traffic problems at rush hour in Cheltenham and lack/cost of parking into account I would much rather do the train and the 5-10 min bike ride on the old GWR trackbed into town.

Moving north given that the money appears to be assigned to David Camerons patch how do they plan to move 2tph through the single line and platforms at Pershore and Worcester Parkway? Even if most train don't stop at either station (which seems pretty unlikely) it's going to be pretty tight to timetable!

You might - others won't.

No money has been assigned to anything at this point, it's all proposals that need to be further developed and a business case made.

Another story appeared in the Worcester News on Monday, but for whatever reason hasn't gone online on its website, which said that the plans also include more redoubling from Wyre Piddle through Pershore to the vicinity of Worcestershire Parkway.
 
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You might - others won't.

No money has been assigned to anything at this point, it's all proposals that need to be further developed and a business case made.

Another story appeared in the Worcester News on Monday, but for whatever reason hasn't gone online on its website, which said that the plans also include more redoubling from Wyre Piddle through Pershore to the vicinity of Worcestershire Parkway.

If that's the case then why not redouble the few extra miles to Norton junction and remove any potential pathing conflicts from having a short stretch of single track?
 

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If that's the case then why not redouble the few extra miles to Norton junction and remove any potential pathing conflicts from having a short stretch of single track?

That would depend on whether Network Rail finally gets round to sweeping away their working mechanical signalling museum in the Worcester area - if that happens, then all sorts of other things are possible, including a reinstated double junction at Norton - but no one will ever pay for that job except as part of an overall Worcester area resignalling and capacity enhancement scheme. And the current plan for Worcestershire Parkway only has enough money in the pot for a single Cotswold Line platform, so that's another factor to take into account. Tackling some of these things may well be within that £275m estimate but its not clear just yet.

In any case, rather as with the possibility of wiring Oxford-Hanborough as well as redoubling there, I'd expect any worked-up business case to offer various costed options for what you could do at the Worcestershire end of the line and the Worcester area, starting with the minimum things you need to have to operate a robust 2tph service.
 
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That would depend on whether Network Rail finally gets round to sweeping away their working mechanical signalling museum in the Worcester area - if that happens, then all sorts of other things are possible, including a reinstated double junction at Norton - but no one will ever pay for that job except as part of an overall Worcester area resignalling and capacity enhancement scheme. And the current plan for Worcestershire Parkway only has enough money in the pot for a single Cotswold Line platform, so that's another factor to take into account. Tackling some of these things may well be within that £275m estimate but its not clear just yet.

In any case, rather as with the possibility of wiring Oxford-Hanborough as well as redoubling there, I'd expect any worked-up business case to offer various costed options for what you could do at the Worcestershire end of the line and the Worcester area, starting with the minimum things you need to have to operate a robust 2tph service.

Good points we will have to wait and see what the report recommends.

As for wiring to Hanbrough, if the third train per hour does happen then wouldn't it have to run down the Crowley branch to create to avoid occupying the platforms at Oxford station (creating an Oxford 'Crossrail'), so that branch would need to be electrified too?
 

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Good points we will have to wait and see what the report recommends.

As for wiring to Hanbrough, if the third train per hour does happen then wouldn't it have to run down the Crowley branch to create to avoid occupying the platforms at Oxford station (creating an Oxford 'Crossrail'), so that branch would need to be electrified too?

I think if the Cowley branch does come into use like this, it would make the case for an Oxford tram much stronger. However, not before 2040 I wouldn't think.
 

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Good points we will have to wait and see what the report recommends.

As for wiring to Hanbrough, if the third train per hour does happen then wouldn't it have to run down the Crowley branch to create to avoid occupying the platforms at Oxford station (creating an Oxford 'Crossrail'), so that branch would need to be electrified too?

I think GWR's plan is an either/or, depending on wiring. If it's wired, then extending electrics out to Hanborough to turn round there instead of the Oxford station area ticks the boxes. If it's not wired, then a Hanborough-Oxford-Cowley Turbo shuttle probably would be the favoured option. I don't think anyone would be looking to wire Cowley until Chiltern services are able to use electricity, as they would most likely form the majority of passenger trains on the branch if both of their Oxford services each hour were to run out there.
 

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I think GWR's plan is an either/or, depending on wiring. If it's wired, then extending electrics out to Hanborough to turn round there instead of the Oxford station area ticks the boxes. If it's not wired, then a Hanborough-Oxford-Cowley Turbo shuttle probably would be the favoured option. I don't think anyone would be looking to wire Cowley until Chiltern services are able to use electricity, as they would most likely form the majority of passenger trains on the branch if both of their Oxford services each hour were to run out there.

Yes that sounds reasonable.

Playing devils advocate for a moment, if EWR gets wired before Banbury or Hanborough, could some Oxford EMU terminators be sent to Oxford Parkway to turn round? (Bear in mind it's already got turn back facilities - which will be unused once Chiltern run through to Oxford). It would save platform capacity at Oxford, though Chiltern might not be pleased...

I think it will be interesting to see what proposals transpire in the bids when the Great Western franchise is up for renewal in 2019 - it seems GWR are setting out their stall already and certainly there's no harm in getting the PM on side at this stage.
 
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