Should Corbyn join RailUKforums?

[tony_mac]

I would have thought a team including terrorist sympathisers like McDonnell and racists like Thornberry and Abbott would be miles in front at this stage.

Do you know that your repeated rants primarily make you look like a rabid lunatic?

 

[Johnuk123]

Do you know that your repeated rants primarily make you look like a rabid lunatic?

So the clips I posted are made-up because they're in the Mail, and I'm a rabid lunatic because I posted them, oh dear change the record it's becoming tiresome.

You lost get over it.

 

[Oswyntail]

... I hope they do, if not for themselves, for the political landscape.

I suspect the Labour Party as it seems to understand itself is past its sell-by date. Virtually all it was set up to achieve is in place. I think the time has come for all the pieces, leftish rightish and off the wall to be thrown in the air and realigned (preferably without parties, but that's my hobby horse).

 

[yorksrob]

I suspect the Labour Party as it seems to understand itself is past its sell-by date. Virtually all it was set up to achieve is in place. I think the time has come for all the pieces, leftish rightish and off the wall to be thrown in the air and realigned (preferably without parties, but that's my hobby horse).

You are an optimist.

Worsening working conditions, replacement of skilled jobs with robots, pensions issues, an unsustainable housing market, corporate tax avoidance.

There is still a lot to be fought for (and a lot more trouble heading our way unfortunately).

Whether the Labour Party is the best vehicle to tackle that, I honestly don't know.

 

[tony_mac]

So the clips I posted are made-up because they're in the Mail, and I'm a rabid lunatic because I posted them, oh dear change the record it's becoming tiresome.

You lost get over it.

Who lost? Me? I've no idea what you are talking about!

It's the repeated tone of your posts that I think make you look like a rabid lunatic - this one really didn't help!
But, I'll leave you in peace to get back to your ranting. I can happily ignore it, I was only trying to offer you some advice (i.e., nobody listens to what the guy who shouts at pigeons is actually saying).

 

[miami]

You are an optimist.

Worsening working conditions, replacement of skilled jobs with robots, pensions issues, an unsustainable housing market, corporate tax avoidance.

There is still a lot to be fought for (and a lot more trouble heading our way unfortunately).

Whether the Labour Party is the best vehicle to tackle that, I honestly don't know.

I suspect not, too wedded to 19th and 20th century struggles, rather than the real challenges of the next 100 years.

 

[yorksrob]

I suspect not, too wedded to 19th and 20th century struggles, rather than the real challenges of the next 100 years.

They seem to have been too wedded to Blairism for a long time.

 

[miami]

They seem to have been too wedded to Blairism for a long time.

The only non-tory PM to win an election since Harold Wilson's 3 seat majority in 1974, and the only non-tory PM to win a decent majority since England won the world cup?

Nobody under the age of 60 has voted in a victorious Labour party aside from one headed up by Tony Blair.

 

[Oswyntail]

...Whether the Labour Party is the best vehicle to tackle that, I honestly don't know.

Not without abandoning its 19th Century attachment to "class warfare". There are problems, including those you listed, but they are not best understood through the lens of "Toffs v Workers".

 

[DarloRich]

Not without abandoning its 19th Century attachment to "class warfare". There are problems, including those you listed, but they are not best understood through the lens of "Toffs v Workers".

whilst I don't necessarily disagree we as a country are sliding backwards in terms of social cohesiveness, social equality and fairness. How long before we are reliant upon noblesse oblige to provide our social safety net?

They seem to have been too wedded to Blairism for a long time.

Which won 3 elections. Easily. How can we help those who need help if we don't win power? Corbyn will not win an election. The people in the key "middle class, middle england, floating voter" land wont vote for him.

It pains me to say this but we as a party have shot ourselves in the foot by doing what we always do. Having a vast lurch followed by internecine warfare, followed by pogroms, followed by long opposition.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Not without abandoning its 19th Century attachment to "class warfare". There are problems, including those you listed, but they are not best understood through the lens of "Toffs v Workers".

One thing that I am sometimes accused of is my use of arcane English Language terminology, but it appears that others are not totally averse to using language terms from at least a couple of generations ago.

"Toffs" immediately brings to my mind images of people who G.K.Chesterton could write about, but those views are totally removed from the realities of the 21st century.

 

[Gutfright]

Not without abandoning its 19th Century attachment to "class warfare". There are problems, including those you listed, but they are not best understood through the lens of "Toffs v Workers".

A cabinet stuffed to the gills with old Etonians have watched by as social mobility falls and income inequality rises to 19th century levels.

Poverty has become such a problem that every major city now has to rely on food banks for the poorest citizens.

All this is happening in one of the richest countries in the world.

Maybe a bit of "class warfare" is exactly what Britain needs?

 

[backontrack]

You lost get over it.

You're not exactly 'over it', are you? :roll:

 

[Oswyntail]

...those views are totally removed from the realities of the 21st century.

Absolutely

....

Maybe a bit of "class warfare" is exactly what Britain needs?

And never the twain shall meet :roll:

 

[backontrack]

Absolutely

Who mentioned 'toffs' originally? You did.

Not without abandoning its 19th Century attachment to "class warfare". There are problems, including those you listed, but they are not best understood through the lens of "Toffs v Workers".

:roll:

 

[gazthomas]

Can't wait for him at a Forum meet up. Bring out the spam sandwiches.

 

[Gutfright]

Can't wait for him at a Forum meet up. Bring out the spam sandwiches.

Hope there's a veggie option, Corbyn's a vegetarian!

 

[gazthomas]

Hope there's a veggie option, Corbyn's a vegetarian!

Argh!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Can't wait for him at a Forum meet up. Bring out the spam sandwiches.

I wonder how he would fare on this website as a Fares Advisor?

 

[jon0844]

Wouldn't he just say the rich should fund cheap or free travel for the workers?

 

[St Rollox]

No Borders are not an anarchist group per se, they seem perfectly happy to keep capitalism and the state as long as they keep an open door immigration policy.

Is this the same No Borders that popped up during the Scottish Referendum?

If it is then their far right-wing crackpots.

 

[yorksrob]

I notice from PMQ's the Mr Corbyn is at least prepared to subject the new transatlantic trade deal to some public scrutiny. Something which is long overdue IMO as I've seen minimal discussion of it or its implications in the media so far.

 

[radamfi]

He just said he would be on every rail line in Wales during the Assembly campaign.

 

[NoMorePacers]

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=127144
Look at this thread I have done. Leave a post of your opinion if you like.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Like it or not, Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party and it is noticeable the BBC in their frenetic dissection of Conservative cabinet members at this point of time have not had the common courtesy to offer him media time as the leader of a political party to ask his views as party leader on the now-announced referendum.

 

[fowler9]

Like it or not, Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party and it is noticeable the BBC in their frenetic dissection of Conservative cabinet members at this point of time have not had the common courtesy to offer him media time as the leader of a political party to ask his views as party leader on the now-announced referendum.

Very well said Paul.

 

[miami]

Like it or not, Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party and it is noticeable the BBC in their frenetic dissection of Conservative cabinet members at this point of time have not had the common courtesy to offer him media time as the leader of a political party to ask his views as party leader on the now-announced referendum.

Are you sure they haven't? I don't see much from him about it at all, in any outlet. Perhaps he's not answering the phone?

I wonder how much the BBC EU referendum guideline Apx 8 has to do with it too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/guidelines/appendix8/party-leader-interviews

The BBC’s Editorial Guidelines set out that any proposal to interview or profile the main party leaders in the UK must be referred in advance to the Chief Adviser, Politics. Similarly, offers of such interviews from the parties must be referred before any can be accepted. This mandatory reference is particularly important during the Referendum Campaign.

Which sounds like a hassle. Perhaps far easier to get an interview with the affable BoJo.

Corbyn is pretty gaffe-tastic, I suspect he's keeping a low profile. Has he been interviewed by Channel 4 or a newspaper?

 

[Johnuk123]

Corbyn turns down most invitations for interviews because of his long standing distrust of the media.

He does contribute to the Morning Star though.

http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/...equality-and-real-social-justice#.Vs2GA9CJQpk

THANK YOU to the Morning Star for giving an opportunity for all four candidates in the Labour leadership election to set out their views for the future of the party, and how we approach the difficult times faced by many across Britain.

 

[Masbroughlad]

Only if he dresses appropriately!

 

[backontrack]

Only if he dresses appropriately!

That was a horribly underhand dig by the PM that shows how pathetic he is. Personal attacks have no place in politics.