Should Corbyn join RailUKforums?

[Xenophon PCDGS]

If Mr Corbyn joined this website, as suggested by the title of this thread, I wonder how long after that event it would be that as a result of a little-known rule, he would not only be a moderator, but a forum administrator...

 

[backontrack]

What do you have against him?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

What do you have against him?

Nothing at all...just drawing a comparison to how he became to be in his present role in the Labour Party.

 

[backontrack]

Oh, sorry, my mistake. I thought you were referring to the fact that his name would be red on the forum.

 

[ainsworth74]

If Mr Corbyn joined this website, as suggested by the title of this thread, I wonder how long after that event it would be that as a result of a little-known rule, he would not only be a moderator, but a forum administrator...

How do you know he isn't already...

 

[backontrack]

MIKE395! I knew it... :P

 

[D841 Roebuck]

Je suis Jeremy...

An honest man, who I don't totally agree with, but who is far better than the alternatives.

 

[miami]

(Mr Corbyn) did not quite admit to being a trainspotter, but said his regional tours helped to feed his interest in Britain's train links.

I wonder how much he had left London before he became Labour leader. Another typical London MP detached from the reality of life outside the M25?

If Mr Corbyn joined this website, as suggested by the title of this thread, I wonder how long after that event it would be that as a result of a little-known rule, he would not only be a moderator, but a forum administrator...

Would such a rule be something like "get the majority of votes"?

Nothing at all...just drawing a comparison to how he became to be in his present role in the Labour Party.

That's clearly wrong, you obviously don't like him. I'm not sure why, if he's as unelectable as the media portray, that means a nice healthy majority for Boris (or George) in 2020. The right should be championing him.

 

[Mojo]

I wonder how much he had left London before he became Labour leader. Another typical London MP detached from the reality of life outside the M25?

According to his profile, Jeremy Corbyn was born in Chippenham and grew up in Shropshire.

I wonder where this reputation comes from about people who live in London? Certainly in my experience, a huge number of people that I know in London are not from London, and those that are, are extremely well-travelled. I cannot say the same about other cities in which I have lived, where the majority of people seem to have no clue about life outside their cities because they have always lived there, and rarely travel elsewhere in the UK! This situation seems to be reflected elsewhere in other provincial towns and cities from anecdotal evidence.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/migra...england-and-wales--year-ending-june-2014.html

 

[St Rollox]

According to his profile, Jeremy Corbyn was born in Chippenham and grew up in Shropshire.

I wonder where this reputation comes from about people who live in London? Certainly in my experience, a huge number of people that I know in London are not from London, and those that are, are extremely well-travelled. I cannot say the same about other cities in which I have lived, where the majority of people seem to have no clue about life outside their cities because they have always lived there, and rarely travel elsewhere in the UK! This situation seems to be reflected elsewhere in other provincial towns and cities from anecdotal evidence.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/migra...england-and-wales--year-ending-june-2014.html

I dread to think what you think about us Jocks!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

.....if he's as unelectable as the media portray, that means a nice healthy majority for Boris (or George) in 2020. The right should be championing him.

In the same way that the Conservatives hoped that "the wrong Miliband" would still be leading the Labour Party at the time of the last General Election.
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Oh, sorry, my mistake. I thought you were referring to the fact that his name would be red on the forum.

Forum administration staff have their username in GREEN

Forum moderators have their username in RED.
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That's clearly wrong, you obviously don't like him. I'm not sure why.

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't the electorate vote to have their Labour Party Member of Parliament to act as their representatives in the House of Commons, but this person who now is the leader of the Labour Party seems quite happy to let the National Executive Committee rather than the many aspected Labour Party Members of Parliament have policy making under their specific remit.

I really must stop reading "Animal Farm" and drawing comparisons.

 

[northwichcat]

If Corbyn posted on here under his own name, someone would have a busy job deciding which of the new signups for the forum want to discuss the railways and which want to sign up just to argue with Corbyn.

I know a constructive Twitter conversation that was happening between a Green Party election candidate and local rail users ended because a pro-HS2 and anti-nationalisation person who posts on here decided to attack the Green Party election candidate on the Green's HS2 and nationalisation policies. :roll:

 

[backontrack]

In the same way that the Conservatives hoped that "the wrong Miliband" would still be leading the Labour Party at the time of the last General Election.

This just shows your opinion - it doesn't defend it whatsoever.

Forum administration staff have their username in GREEN

Forum moderators have their username in RED.

Oh, silly me, but that kind of remark is what I've grown to expect. And supposing I was colourblind, what then?

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't the electorate vote to have their Labour Party Member of Parliament to act as their representatives in the House of Commons, but this person who now is the leader of the Labour Party seems quite happy to let the National Executive Committee rather than the many aspected Labour Party Members of Parliament have policy making under their specific remit.

Scaremongering?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Oh, silly me, but that kind of remark is what I've grown to expect. And supposing I was colourblind, what then?

Since it was stated in your very own posting that reference to the colour of red was stated, if you were actually colour-blind, how would you have known it was the colour red?....:roll:

 

[backontrack]

Since it was stated in your very own posting that reference to the colour of red was stated, if you were actually colour-blind, how would you have known it was the colour red?....:roll:

I would have known from having seen people talk about it. References have been made on this forum to the colour of admins' names.

 

[muddythefish]

The more I read and hear about Jeremy Corbyn the more I like him. The fact he is a railway supporter adds to the allure. Can you imagine it -a British prime minster who actually knows something about railways and the opposite of the Wicked Witch of Grantham who professed to hating them? Anyone who loves railways and wants to see railway expansion (presumably most posters on here) should therefore vote Labour at the next election.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

The more I read and hear about Jeremy Corbyn the more I like him. The fact he is a railway supporter adds to the allure. Can you imagine it -a British prime minster who actually knows something about railways and the opposite of the Wicked Witch of Grantham who professed to hating them? Anyone who loves railways and wants to see railway expansion (presumably most posters on here) should therefore vote Labour at the next election.

A most interesting proposition. Perhaps the Labour Party could lead with your idea in their campaign for the next series of local elections, prior to making it one of their major "highlight" issues of the next General Election.

 

[edwin_m]

If Mr Corbyn joined this website, as suggested by the title of this thread, I wonder how long after that event it would be that as a result of a little-known rule, he would not only be a moderator, but a forum administrator...

Presumably he'd sit around for 30 years or so as a "veteran member" disagreeing with the rest of us, then suddenly he'd be running the forum?

 

[ainsworth74]

Presumably he'd sit around for 30 years or so as a "veteran member" disagreeing with the rest of us, then suddenly he'd be running the forum?

Now that you mention it doesn't a certain Paul S from Cheshire meet those criteria?

 

[backontrack]

Now that you mention it doesn't a certain Paul S from Cheshire meet those criteria?

I think so

 

[Oswyntail]

.. Anyone who loves railways and wants to see railway expansion (presumably most posters on here) should therefore vote Labour at the next election.

Actually, his "big idea" about railways seems to be to nationalise them. The views on that here seem to be fairly evenly split.

 

[miami]

Presumably he'd sit around for 30 years or so as a "veteran member" disagreeing with the rest of us, then suddenly he'd be running the forum?

Does Corbyn come from the part of London that is "Extremely posh, even by London standards (Better than Kensington or Notting Hill)"?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Anyone who loves railways and wants to see railway expansion (presumably most posters on here) should therefore vote Labour at the next election.

The problem with that premise is that railways cannot be looked at in isolation with no regard whatsoever for other matters that the electorate may consider far more important than that of railways.
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Does Corbyn come from the part of London that is "Extremely posh, even by London standards (Better than Kensington or Notting Hill)"?

I immediately noted the play on words that once formed my stated location shown under my avatar, but events moved on apace, as my first New Year's resolution was to change the wording to something far less descriptive, but still conveying the rurality of our home location....

 

[jon0844]

A most interesting proposition. Perhaps the Labour Party could lead with your idea in their campaign for the next series of local elections, prior to making it one of their major "highlight" issues of the next General Election.

Given all the current controversy, I'm sure adding 'rail enthusiast' (which would become train spotter) would help even more to make him electable!

 

[ExRes]

The more I read and hear about Jeremy Corbyn the more I like him. The fact he is a railway supporter adds to the allure. Can you imagine it -a British prime minster who actually knows something about railways and the opposite of the Wicked Witch of Grantham who professed to hating them? Anyone who loves railways and wants to see railway expansion (presumably most posters on here) should therefore vote Labour at the next election.

Sorry to ask, but did you forget the with your post ?

Perhaps if Nigel Farage promised to reduce fares and double railway investment you'd advise us all to vote UKIP ?

 

[DynamicSpirit]

That's clearly wrong, you obviously don't like him. I'm not sure why,

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't the electorate vote to have their Labour Party Member of Parliament to act as their representatives in the House of Commons, but this person who now is the leader of the Labour Party seems quite happy to let the National Executive Committee rather than the many aspected Labour Party Members of Parliament have policy making under their specific remit.

That seems a very odd reason to cite for not liking Jeremy Corbyn. There are fairly good reasons in principle for having some body other than MPs make party policy: MPs tend to be extremely busy helping constituents and doing their work in the Commons - scrutinizing legislation, voting, engaging in debates, etc. so they probably don't need the additional burden of having to formulate party policy as well. Formulating good policies tends to require extensive consultation, eg. from experts in various fields. Both Labour and the Conservatives have over 200 MPs - far, far too many for them all to be significantly involved in making policy. And generally party policy is just that: It's the policy of the *party* - MPs are not constitutionally obligated to support it (although if they don't, they may become unpopular with some party members). Besides, although I don't the precise structure of all the parties, I'm fairly sure all the main parties have mechanisms for making policies that involve decisions being made by people who aren't MPs - probably in part for the very reasons I've just pointed out. So there doesn't seem to be any big difference in principle between how Labour does it and how other parties do it in that regard. So - like I say - an apparently very strange reason to dislike the Labour leader.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

So - like I say - an apparently very strange reason to dislike the Labour leader.

It is the grouping of those who hold very left wing views on the National Executive Committee, which do not forget are under the guiding hand of "kind uncle Jeremy" that do not reflect the widespread "broad church" views of the Labour Party members of Parliament.

One man's MOMENTUM is another man's MILITANT TENDENCY

 

[Oswyntail]

Personally, I find Corbyn (from the media, I know) to be full of poorly thought out ideas, harking back to a dreamily ideal world of yesteryear, with little understanding of the roles of the professionals with whom he works.
In short, he would fit right in with most on this board.

 

[muddythefish]

It shows how far to the right politics in this country has become when Corbyn is regarded as "extreme left" when he is in fact no more than a Scandinavian-type social democrat.

And those people decrying his views have no comment to make on the fact that for the past 6 years we have the most right wing government in memory (even more so than Thatcher's) that is waging war on the poorest and weakest in society

 

[backontrack]

Does Corbyn come from the part of London that is "Extremely posh, even by London standards (Better than Kensington or Notting Hill)"?

There ain't no sunshine in Westminster these days.

Unfortunately, not even 'The exclusive rural part of the Hackney Golden Triangle' works anymore. How about 'Very rural Abbottshire'?
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It shows how far to the right politics in this country has become when Corbyn is regarded as "extreme left" when he is in fact no more than a Scandinavian-type social democrat.

And those people decrying his views have no comment to make on the fact that for the past 6 years we have the most right wing government in memory (even more so than Thatcher's) that is waging war on the poorest and weakest in society

I agree with this, although he's not quite as good a leader. He seems too 'nice'.