DaleCooper
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Some people never seem to learn, yesterday I was behind a woman in Tesco who bought two 5p bags when all her shopping would would have fitted into one 10p "bag for life".
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Or shoppers get into the habit of carrying bags suitable for liklely purchases whenever they go out.
DaleCooper
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I always have a bag or two in the back pocket of my jeans so I never get caught short.
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DaleCooper
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I'm with you on that, in fact anything powered by fossil fuels.
Jonfun
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Tesco's are now, if you ask for bags, forcing you to buy 10p ones instead of 5p ones because "sorry, we're out of the 5p ones".
"Sorry, I'm shopping at Sainsbury's then!" and leave a conveyor belt full (70 or so quid's worth?) of shopping at their till. Yes, in case you hadn't clocked, I am a bit of a c**k.
"Sorry, I'm shopping at Sainsbury's then!" and leave a conveyor belt full (70 or so quid's worth?) of shopping at their till. Yes, in case you hadn't clocked, I am a bit of a c**k.
90019
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If I'm that desperate, I try and use a bottle - bags are bit messy.
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Jonfun
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Sorry you disagree, but if I can't carry it home, I'm not shopping in your store. I'm the customer, and I choose where I shop. If you choose to profiteer on the law (charging customers twice the price wouldn't be tolerated if you were buying anything else) then I'll give Waitrose or whoever my custom. Not all of us are able to drive to do our shopping.
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I don't believe charging for carrier bags should be a thing - I didn't vote for the tories. What I won't stand for is a company profiteering against the spirit of the law, especially when they pay their staff far less than they deserve - but I'll save that rant for a Union-related thread.
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Where to start....
1) The 10p bags last considerably longer than the 5p bags. In fact, they last more than twice as long.
2) The 10p bags hold considerably more than the 5p bags. In fact, they hold more than twice as much.
3) Had you considered reusing your old bags, you wouldn't be in this dilemma. I buy a bag on probably less than 10% of my trips to the supermarket. I achieve this by purchasing the more expensive bags in the first place, which can then be reused multiple times. They provide better value for money in the long run.
4) By driving to another store, you're probably wasting more money than you're saving. This gives you a net loss, if you are driving. (You've said you aren't driving, though, which brings me onto...)
5) Can you actually carry £70 of shopping home in flimsy 5p Tesco bags? Really? I'd bet that at least a few of the bags would give way under the strain. Unless, of course, you've bought more than twice the number of 5p bags than you would have needed if you'd bought 10p bags (which brings me back to point 2, above)
6) By going elsewhere and doing your £70 shop again, you've demonstrated that you clearly have quite a large amount of free time on your hands. For the sake of a few pennies, you're willing to spend probably about another hour of your life repeating the same task you've just done.
7) If Sainsbury's had also run out of 5p bags, would you go to Morrisons and repeat this charade? (Incidentally, Sainsbury's has the best 5p bags on the market).
8) No-one is "forcing" you to buy anything. You could always, for example, re-use your old carriers. If you have a car, you can load the goods in the boot loose. You can carry goods in a rucksack, or your pockets, or in your hands. Or, as you've demonstrated, you can act like a three year old.
9) If Tesco had run out of value loaves of bread that day, and you wanted bread, would you also walk out of the store, since you'd be "forced" to pay for a more expensive product? Would you consider this to be "profiteering"? Or would you consider that it might just be that they've run out of stock?
10) The law encourages firms to donate money to charities and good causes. In the case of Tesco, they donate their profits from carrier bag charges to the charity Groundwork. Therefore, they aren't "profiteering".
11) The law states that shops must charge a minimum of 5p for every carrier bag. That's a minimum value, and not a maximum value. There is no requirement for a retailer to even offer a 5p bag. They could charge £4.72 if they wanted to do so.
12) I don't care who you voted for. The laws enacted by the government are still in force.
1) The 10p bags last considerably longer than the 5p bags. In fact, they last more than twice as long.
2) The 10p bags hold considerably more than the 5p bags. In fact, they hold more than twice as much.
3) Had you considered reusing your old bags, you wouldn't be in this dilemma. I buy a bag on probably less than 10% of my trips to the supermarket. I achieve this by purchasing the more expensive bags in the first place, which can then be reused multiple times. They provide better value for money in the long run.
4) By driving to another store, you're probably wasting more money than you're saving. This gives you a net loss, if you are driving. (You've said you aren't driving, though, which brings me onto...)
5) Can you actually carry £70 of shopping home in flimsy 5p Tesco bags? Really? I'd bet that at least a few of the bags would give way under the strain. Unless, of course, you've bought more than twice the number of 5p bags than you would have needed if you'd bought 10p bags (which brings me back to point 2, above)
6) By going elsewhere and doing your £70 shop again, you've demonstrated that you clearly have quite a large amount of free time on your hands. For the sake of a few pennies, you're willing to spend probably about another hour of your life repeating the same task you've just done.
7) If Sainsbury's had also run out of 5p bags, would you go to Morrisons and repeat this charade? (Incidentally, Sainsbury's has the best 5p bags on the market).
8) No-one is "forcing" you to buy anything. You could always, for example, re-use your old carriers. If you have a car, you can load the goods in the boot loose. You can carry goods in a rucksack, or your pockets, or in your hands. Or, as you've demonstrated, you can act like a three year old.
9) If Tesco had run out of value loaves of bread that day, and you wanted bread, would you also walk out of the store, since you'd be "forced" to pay for a more expensive product? Would you consider this to be "profiteering"? Or would you consider that it might just be that they've run out of stock?
10) The law encourages firms to donate money to charities and good causes. In the case of Tesco, they donate their profits from carrier bag charges to the charity Groundwork. Therefore, they aren't "profiteering".
11) The law states that shops must charge a minimum of 5p for every carrier bag. That's a minimum value, and not a maximum value. There is no requirement for a retailer to even offer a 5p bag. They could charge £4.72 if they wanted to do so.
12) I don't care who you voted for. The laws enacted by the government are still in force.
Well said
It's random though. The point people you scanned three items, but perhaps missed a fourth?
When you sign up, you'll be automatically set for a number of checks in your first ten transactions. The random bit being you won't know which ones.
Waitrose will rescan every item, while Tesco scans a few random items (I guess staff go for high value items or ones it knows people might think they can slip through easily). The problem is that Tesco employs too few staff so once you're asked for a scan, it can mean being in the store ages.
One member of staff can't deal with all self scan checkouts (both handheld scanner and people scanning items at tills) but that's what they employ at our local superstore. Mad, and more worthy of complaint than a 5p bag charge (see how I got back on topic there?!)
Bletchleyite
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Talking of Sainsburys bags, do people know why they are higher quality? It's because they are bags for life, which means Sainsburys can use the cost to pay for them, which they can't do if they are single use ones.
ExRes
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I have to ask something, if you get to the till with £70 of items is this an impulse buy or a planned visit ?
ps I do take notice of your "I am a bit of a c**k" self analysis
I doubt very much Tesco, or any store for that matter, care much about the longevity of plastic bags. By adding 10p, they're making sure of an instant profit margin increase. It's a bit like the £4 minimum basket charge on their online store.
Let's not forget here that this has very little to do with the environment, otherwise they would've recognised the damage done by bags and implemented the charge decades ago.
Let's not forget here that this has very little to do with the environment, otherwise they would've recognised the damage done by bags and implemented the charge decades ago.
ExRes
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Ever thought of putting your car keys under a shopping bag ?, you could take the bag and walk then saving the global environment and keeping yourself fit
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If it were me, I'd be spending more time looking for my car keys!Ever thought of putting your car keys under a shopping bag ?, you could take the bag and walk then saving the global environment and keeping yourself fit
Trog
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I am still using the disposable bags I stocked up on before the green bag tax was introduced. I also have a few bags for life that Tosco were giving away, that I use for heavy fragile but important shopping like beer bottles.
Having to always carry bags with me and or in the car is a pain though, much preferred the idea of biodegradable disposable bags.
Having to always carry bags with me and or in the car is a pain though, much preferred the idea of biodegradable disposable bags.
Bletchleyite
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You could always pay 5p for them. They haven't been abolished.
DaleCooper
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I just can't believe this!
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WestCoast
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Goodness some of us have to walk to the supermarket AND take bags for life with us. 
Xenophon PCDGS
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I was recently allowed a special treat in being allowed to accompany my good lady wife to Waitrose in Wilmslow and I was amazed to see how of many shoppers had brought those strong wide-gusseted hessian bags (that have handles that do not cut off the circulation to your fingers) with them. Many of these carried The National Trust monogram.
DaleCooper
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Bottles are no use for solids.
I realised after I posted that some people would take it that way.
GatwickDepress
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Funny, I work checkouts and we've never intentionally ran out of 5p bags as you are so implying.
And yes, you are a cock. All because you had to spend an extra few pence. My heart does not bleed.
90019
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deltic1989
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I've got a friend who has chosen to "protest" the carrier bag charge by deliberately using a competitor's bag for life e.g. ASDA bfl at Morrisons.
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