Any unused Class 37's that could be brought back into mainline use?

[snakeeyes]

How many class 37 are there not being used that could go back on the main line?

 

[doningtonphil]

I am not sure, however as every edition of Rail magazine seems to have a report on the locos that the likes of Harry Needle, DRS and Colas have bought/sold/sent to scrap/bought from scrap I think it is reasonable to assume that every Class 37 is somehow accounted for

 

[jopsuk]

If there were, what would they be useful for and by who?

 

[Trainfan344]

If there were, what would they be useful for and by who?

Another short set on greater anglia.

 

[jopsuk]

There's surely enough mainline certified 37s that if GA wanted to do that, they could?

 

[Topgun333]

What is happening with Europhoenix 37884?

 

[Observer]

What is happening with Europhoenix 37884?

Leased to Rail Operations Group.

 

[185143]

If there were, what would they be useful for and by who?

Another short set on greater anglia.

I don't think I'd be alone in preferring another set on the coast (as I heard rumors in summer was going to happen in December, from northern staff).

That's merely for selfish reasons though as Lancaster is only 45 minutes away from me

 

[BestWestern]

What is happening with Europhoenix 37884?

What's that in aid of? Surely there aren't anywhere enough spare ones to start trying to export them?

Or are EP just after a toe-in to the UK market?

 

[DarloRich]

What's that in aid of? Surely there aren't anywhere enough spare ones to start trying to export them?

Or are EP just after a toe-in to the UK market?

they might have one now as their 37 has been out doing LM stock transfers via Rail Operations Group

 

[47802]

I don't think I'd be alone in preferring another set on the coast (as I heard rumors in summer was going to happen in December, from northern staff).

That's merely for selfish reasons though as Lancaster is only 45 minutes away from me

I have seen elsewhere a comment about another Northern Rail Loco hauled diagram starting from next May, which one wonders if this is a Dft led solution to nick more Northern units for TPX to plug the loss of remaining 170's.

However this is indicated as a Southport working and will worked by DBS 67's

 

[Chris125]

What's that in aid of? Surely there aren't anywhere enough spare ones to start trying to export them?

Or are EP just after a toe-in to the UK market?

EPs pair of 37s will be doing rolling stock moves for the Railway Operations Group but this isn't new for Europhoenix, they made a pair of 86s (86701 and 86702) available for spot hire a few years ago.

 

[plastictaffy]

they might have one now as their 37 has been out doing LM stock transfers via Rail Operations Group

What and to where??

 

[matt]

What and to where??

Soho to Tyseley with 323s so far with a 37.

 

[CockneySparrow]

Another short set on greater anglia.

why class 37s, should stick with 47s on passengers, DRS have withdrawn loads I see for no apparent reason

 

[gimmea50anyday]

37's have better route availability than 47's although not by much, besides where there are others of same class operating it makes sense operationally and crew training/knowledge to stick to one type rather than mix types

 

[Bungle965]

why class 37s, should stick with 47s on passengers, DRS have withdrawn loads I see for no apparent reason

I think also they were not very reliable, when the GA short set was running with 47s it would be a bit hit and miss if they would be running or not.
Sam

 

[Warbo44]

37884 and i hear 37800, which is currently at Leicester, are to be mainline reinstated and fitted with dellner couplings for hauling class 321's from Ilford north to Wabtec in Doncaster for refurbishment. The couplings won't be the same as the class 57/3 versions as these type will i think be coupled onto the buffers at one end so they can haul the unit set without a barrier coach / wagon.
As has already been mentioned it's the Rail Operations Group who have leased the 2 locos off Europhoenix. The ROG have won a few stock movement contracts in the last few months. They also work the moves for Southeastern class 375's to and from Litchurch Lane, Derby. They've recently won the GWR contract to move mk3 stock to and from Kilmarnock off DBS. They also move other units / DMU's such as 150's & 158's for LM and ATW but not hauled by locos.
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As for any unused class 37's there aren't any left in DBS hands but there are a few others either under the control of DRS, HNRC, WCR, NR or preserved that could be repaired and reinstated i would guess.

DRS - 37503/510/521/670/714 (Barrow Hill), 703 (Bo'ness & Kinneil railway), 37038/194/682 (Derby spares donors), 716 (Derby repaired)
WCR - 37165/214/517/710 (spares donors)
NR - 37198 (currently at Nemesis rail repairs ?)
UKR - 37905/906 (Leicester TMD)
SRPS - 37025/413 (repairs to mainline standard Bo'ness & Kinneil railway)

There are over just under 30 other examples of class 37's preserved / privately owned around the country working, under repair or stored in a poor state of repair. But that didn't stop DRS. Just look at their decision to purchase 37407 & 424 from the Churnet valley railway and 37413 from the Bo'ness & Kinneil railway and have them repaired and reinstated at RVEL Derby.

Preserved / privately owned examples include 003/009/023/029/032/042/075/097/108/109/142/152/215/227/240/248/250/255/263/264/275/294/308/314/324/418/674/679/901. Which when all said and done if any FOC made a decent offer to the owners then you could see any of these return to the mainline. Such the position of the emissions regulations at present and the allowance of purchasing old locos and having them repaired to a mainline standard.

Colas have recently purchased 37057/116/175/219/421 and returned them to the mainline. With others 146/188/207 & 254 due for repairs.

 

[jopsuk]

37884 and i hear 37800, which is currently at Leicester, are to be mainline reinstated and fitted with dellner couplings for hauling class 321's from Ilford north to Wabtec in Doncaster for refurbishment. The couplings won't be the same as the class 57/3 versions as these type will i think be coupled onto the buffers at one end so they can haul the unit set without a barrier coach / wagon.

Tightlock surely? a dellner/schafenberg type coupler would be very little use for hauling a 321!

 

[Warbo44]

Tightlock surely? a dellner/schafenberg type coupler would be very little use for hauling a 321!

Yes, your right i'm not up on multiple unit couplings. I read a report that ROG had won the contract tender for Wabtec and it might've said tightlock but i've mistook it for dellner that's all.

 

[jbqfc]

37714 is not now at barrow hill saw it going up the M1 last Friday on the back of a lorry

 

[Warbo44]

37714 is not now at barrow hill saw it going up the M1 last Friday on the back of a lorry

Wonder where it was going ?

 

[Whistler40145]

More the point, is 37714 fully intact or cannibalised for spares?

 

[jbqfc]

More the point, is 37714 fully intact or cannibalised for spares?

it look intact form the quick view i got

 

[Whistler40145]

Quite intriguing to know where 37714 was heading, if on the back of a lorry, obviously she couldn't be towed on the mainline.

 

[Murph]

Quite intriguing to know where 37714 was heading, if on the back of a lorry, obviously she couldn't be towed on the mainline.

Not necessarily. In today's disjointed and fragmented railway, it's sometimes easier and cheaper to move railway vehicles by road!

 

[Ash Bridge]

Are there still any class 37s remaining in neighbouring countries such as France and Spain after their employment there on LGV construction trains?

 

[al.currie93]

How many 37s are actually in full mainline service now then? The number definitely seems to be increasing at the moment. I'm not 100% sure but would they be the largest active class of pre-HST era diesels also?

 

[stibz]

How many 37s are actually in full mainline service now then? The number definitely seems to be increasing at the moment. I'm not 100% sure but would they be the largest active class of pre-HST era diesels also?

A rough guess would be between 30 & 40 ?

 

[Boothby97]

Are there still any class 37s remaining in neighbouring countries such as France and Spain after their employment there on LGV construction trains?

No, only 58s remained stored in France and Spain following use on construction trains