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Continuous Positive Airway Pressure (CPAP) machine in sleeper compartment

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That proves that it is technically possible, not necessarily economically viable on the sleeper stock. I'm not sure how much fitting plug sockets would have added to the £7 million cost of the last refurbishment, undertaken in 2000. Probably not much, but you never know: The refurbishment seemed to focus on increased the disabled accessibility along with new carpets and décor than it did altering the electrics.

And in the year 2000, what did people need sockets for? Slight exaggeration...
And a sleeper would have needed one per cabin as well which is a vey high ratio compared with a daytime coach.
 
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And in the year 2000, what did people need sockets for?

Mobile phones and laptops did exist back then! Though far fewer people had them, and most personal audio devices were powered by batteries.

Slight exaggeration, but a sleeper would have needed one per cabin as well which is a vey high ratio compared with a daytime coach.

No different than the ratio of sockets to passengers on trains such as Voyagers which have one per pair of seats.
 

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Mobile phones and laptops did exist back then! Though far fewer people had them, and most personal audio devices were powered by batteries.

Mobiles were popular back in 2000, laptops less so. However back in 2000, we had the delights of the Nokia 3210 which had a decent battery life (about a week) that puts today's smartphones to shame.
 

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Not wishing to put you off, but sockets on other stock also often trip out when the pantograph is down. I'm pretty sure all auxiliary power on a Pendolino goes out in a neutral section -even the coffee machine does. So sadly no guarantee of a solution in the new stock either
I've used my iPhone charger on a Pendolino and a Mk4 IC225 TSO and the charger was still operative when passing a neutral section, though I've had it go off on a Eurostar and an ICE3M while it passed one, and during the AC/DC changeover. It depends mostly on how the auxiliaries are powered.
 

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Mobiles were popular back in 2000, laptops less so. However back in 2000, we had the delights of the Nokia 3210 which had a decent battery life (about a week) that puts today's smartphones to shame.

Slightly reworded previous post.

Our household of 4 had one laptop and 2 Nokias by 2001.

Between us, it's now 4 laptops, 3 tablets, 2 Kindles, 4 smartphones....
 

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I'm wondering if the reason that the berths have never been fitted with normal 3 pin sockets is down to the fact that there is running water supplied to the hot and cold flushing toilet (sink).
 

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there are external battery packs, which are cumbersome and are only 4 hours max at full pressure (when fully charged) so be prepared if you use one on the train.

I've used a battery pack that could run my (then) S8 for ages.

British Snoring rent them for £7 a day for people going on holiday. I used the C266, and it had enough power for three separate nights on sleepers (Cologne-Vienna, Vienna-Venice, Venice-Paris) without being recharged at any point in between. It was a bit below half-charge at the end of the holiday.
 

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This issue is a good example of how disability access is too often seen narrowly in terms of wheelchairs whereas in reality it covers a variety of issues, including socket provision.
 

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This issue is a good example of how disability access is too often seen narrowly in terms of wheelchairs whereas in reality it covers a variety of issues, including socket provision.
Couldn't agree more. In my case it relates to the provision of loos on trains and at stations.
 
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