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jonesy3001
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16238 and 40033 have left morecambe for the conversion to lager cans.
darrenw29
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What is the new info bus?
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22160 in service on the 30 today
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22160 in service on the 30 today
KendalKing
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Taken from Stagecoach Website.
Road Closure - Hest Bank Lane from Monday 18th May 2015
From Monday 18th May 2015, Hest Bank Lane will be closed between its junction with the A6 to Throstle Grove for up to 25 weeks. This is to allow sewer works to take place.
Service 55, 55A and 55C will be diverted to operate along Shady Lane and Manor Lane before or after serving Peacock Lane then back onto the A6 near Slyne Lodge.
Road Closure - Torrisholmne Hyde Road and Cross Hill
POSTPONED UNTIL 29TH MAY
Due to the construction of a bridge for the M6 link road, there will be a road closure at Torrisholme from 2200 on Friday 29th May until 0600 on Monday 1st June.
The stops at Torrisholme, Hyde Road and Cross Hill will be shut for duration of the closure.
Services 2, 2A, 3, 3A & 4 will all operate along Morecambe Road and run around Torrisholme Square in towards Morecambe and Lancaster.
From Lancaster a shuttle service 3D will operate via Owen Road, Torrisholme Road, Penrhyn Road, Morecambe Road, Scale Hall Lane and back onto Torrisholme Road to Lancaster. Customers for Lancaster can stay on the shuttle bus.
Customers for services towards Morecambe will need to change buses at the Penrhyn Road stop on Morecambe Road and cross over to catch their buses from the opposite stop.
On Friday evening the 3D Shuttle will operate from Lancaster every 20 minutes between 2150 and 0030
On Saturday 3D will run every 20 minutes between 0705 and 0845, then every 15 mins from 0905 until 1750 then for the evening every 20 minutes from 1820 to 0030.
On Sunday 3D will operate every 30 mins all day from 0830 until 2330.
We apologise for the inconvenience this may cause.
Road Closure - Hest Bank Lane from Monday 18th May 2015
From Monday 18th May 2015, Hest Bank Lane will be closed between its junction with the A6 to Throstle Grove for up to 25 weeks. This is to allow sewer works to take place.
Service 55, 55A and 55C will be diverted to operate along Shady Lane and Manor Lane before or after serving Peacock Lane then back onto the A6 near Slyne Lodge.
Road Closure - Torrisholmne Hyde Road and Cross Hill
POSTPONED UNTIL 29TH MAY
Due to the construction of a bridge for the M6 link road, there will be a road closure at Torrisholme from 2200 on Friday 29th May until 0600 on Monday 1st June.
The stops at Torrisholme, Hyde Road and Cross Hill will be shut for duration of the closure.
Services 2, 2A, 3, 3A & 4 will all operate along Morecambe Road and run around Torrisholme Square in towards Morecambe and Lancaster.
From Lancaster a shuttle service 3D will operate via Owen Road, Torrisholme Road, Penrhyn Road, Morecambe Road, Scale Hall Lane and back onto Torrisholme Road to Lancaster. Customers for Lancaster can stay on the shuttle bus.
Customers for services towards Morecambe will need to change buses at the Penrhyn Road stop on Morecambe Road and cross over to catch their buses from the opposite stop.
On Friday evening the 3D Shuttle will operate from Lancaster every 20 minutes between 2150 and 0030
On Saturday 3D will run every 20 minutes between 0705 and 0845, then every 15 mins from 0905 until 1750 then for the evening every 20 minutes from 1820 to 0030.
On Sunday 3D will operate every 30 mins all day from 0830 until 2330.
We apologise for the inconvenience this may cause.
Class20
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Ferrymill Motors Wright Meridian MAN FM33 has moved up to Preston, its new regular route is the 3 to Penwortham.
The older Solos at Preston are receiving the revised Stagecoach livery with out the Blue and Orange front swoops, 47008 & 47713 have both been done.
The older Solos at Preston are receiving the revised Stagecoach livery with out the Blue and Orange front swoops, 47008 & 47713 have both been done.
TheHovisKid
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Are Versas getting it too? Morecambe's trio were repainted a while back but they still have a blue destination box (which actually looks better)
Edit: What I mean is, as the solo livery is usually quoted as being based-on-versas (which never had the front swirls) I was surprised when they retained the blue route box when Solos never got it.
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Class20
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I don't know what the Versas are like now, haven't seen them since they all moved off to Merseyside last year.
Ex Stagecoach London 17491 LX51FML is in at Preston (from Chester), spotted working to Southport the other day on route 2.
Ex Stagecoach London 17491 LX51FML is in at Preston (from Chester), spotted working to Southport the other day on route 2.
TheHovisKid
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What's the policy with fleetnames at Morecambe these days?
Kendal seemed to get all of their stuff labelled "Kendal and South Lakes" (I think, not seen anything of theirs for a while) fairy quickly but most of Morecambe's stuff seems to still be just "Lancaster". In fact, on 17020, the "Lancaster and Morecambe" bit looks to have been peeled off.
Kendal seemed to get all of their stuff labelled "Kendal and South Lakes" (I think, not seen anything of theirs for a while) fairy quickly but most of Morecambe's stuff seems to still be just "Lancaster". In fact, on 17020, the "Lancaster and Morecambe" bit looks to have been peeled off.
jonesy3001
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New company policy, most depots have removed the "in whereever" legals has it saves money changing from "in Lancaster and Morecambe" to "in Manchester".
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TheHovisKid
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Ah, right. I can see the point in not changing them or replacing them (Can;t see a passenger saying "Hang on, this one says Cumbria not Lancaster, I'm not getting on that!"), but activity removing them unless transferred seems a bit daft.
KendalKing
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Taken from Stagecoach Website.
Queens Visit to Lancaster 29th May
On Friday 29th May Her Majesty The Queen will visit Lancaster and due to this a number of our services will be affected by road closures and diversions.
From 20.00 on Thursday 28th until 16.00 on Friday 29th May no buses will be able to call at Common Garden Street as the pavements in this area will be closed in preparation for the Queen's procession through the City Centre.
Between these hours all southbound services 2, 2A, 3, 3A, 4 & X4 towards Lancaster University, 10 to the Ridge, 40 & 41 towards Preston and service 42 towards Blackpool will operate from Dalton Square.
From 06.00 until 16.00 on Friday 29th May Meeting House Lane, Station Road and Lancaster Rail Station will be closed to all traffic.
Services 3A & X4 to and from Lancaster Rail Station will divert via St George's Quay to access the area. Customers for the University should catch the 3A and X4 services from the bus stop outside Lancaster Football Club opposite your usual stop.
These buses will then operate via Fairfield Road, Westbourne Road and Willow Lane to rejoin the usual route along Lune Road and St George's Quay towards the University.
Service 7 for the Marsh Estate will also be diverted along St George's Quay but will then serve the Lancaster Football Club opposite Westfield Village Before serving Fairfield Road then usual route around Abraham Heights and Willow Lane.
The bus will then head to the City Centre along Lune Road and St George's Quay to Lancaster bus station.
We expect delays to these services due to the extra time and mileage required by the diversions and would advise customers to allow extra time for your journeys.
Queens Visit to Lancaster 29th May
On Friday 29th May Her Majesty The Queen will visit Lancaster and due to this a number of our services will be affected by road closures and diversions.
From 20.00 on Thursday 28th until 16.00 on Friday 29th May no buses will be able to call at Common Garden Street as the pavements in this area will be closed in preparation for the Queen's procession through the City Centre.
Between these hours all southbound services 2, 2A, 3, 3A, 4 & X4 towards Lancaster University, 10 to the Ridge, 40 & 41 towards Preston and service 42 towards Blackpool will operate from Dalton Square.
From 06.00 until 16.00 on Friday 29th May Meeting House Lane, Station Road and Lancaster Rail Station will be closed to all traffic.
Services 3A & X4 to and from Lancaster Rail Station will divert via St George's Quay to access the area. Customers for the University should catch the 3A and X4 services from the bus stop outside Lancaster Football Club opposite your usual stop.
These buses will then operate via Fairfield Road, Westbourne Road and Willow Lane to rejoin the usual route along Lune Road and St George's Quay towards the University.
Service 7 for the Marsh Estate will also be diverted along St George's Quay but will then serve the Lancaster Football Club opposite Westfield Village Before serving Fairfield Road then usual route around Abraham Heights and Willow Lane.
The bus will then head to the City Centre along Lune Road and St George's Quay to Lancaster bus station.
We expect delays to these services due to the extra time and mileage required by the diversions and would advise customers to allow extra time for your journeys.
chiltern trev
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Various changes to the Carlisle City network starting Monday 18th May - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/uploads/carlislenetworkchangeflyerweb.pdf.
Route most affected is the 67/68 Belle Vue (loop) - City Centre - Upperby (loop) with a combined frequency of every 7/8 minutes (where the 67 and 68 alternate and traverse the terminal loops in different directions) to service 67 only every 10 minutes. Thus 8 buses per hour becomes 6 buses per hour.
Route most affected is the 67/68 Belle Vue (loop) - City Centre - Upperby (loop) with a combined frequency of every 7/8 minutes (where the 67 and 68 alternate and traverse the terminal loops in different directions) to service 67 only every 10 minutes. Thus 8 buses per hour becomes 6 buses per hour.
KendalKing
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Foundry Lane in Halton-upon-Lune, as to be closed from 22 June for upto 12-months, effecting Services 5B & 51.
Yep and it has now gone from being a great service to total rubbish
I now have to leave 10 mins earlier in morning for work and now takes an hour to get home on a night (25 mins extra)
They advertise that they run every 10 min this is rubbish as I have waited 20 mins on 3 occasions!!!
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KendalKing
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Sounds like services 2/2A in Lancaster, they too are advertised as running every 10 mins, yet on Wednesday 27th, my wife and myself waited 35 mins for a bus, then two turn-up together.
madannie77
Member
Unscientific but regular observation from my workplace on Botchergate suggests that the 67s usually hunt in pairs. One of my colleagues also curses the new arrangement as it has let her down several times already.
Speaking of observations from my workplace, on Thursday I twice saw an Optare Solo, YJ15AET in all over blue (perhaps - my colour vision is imperfect) and it appeared to have Stagecoach legals. Any ideas
chiltern trev
Member
Went past the Carlisle depot on Friday afternoon (29th) and there appeared to be 2 dark coloured solos inside - so as one has been seen out around Carlisle I assume that means at least of the new Solos have been delivered.
From http://stagecoachgroup.***********.org/index.php?component=content&topicid=754
on order for 2015-2016 are:
Scania N230UD/ ADL Enviro400
15221 to 15225 for Lillyhall Depot, Cumbria & North Lancs (Gold Spec)
Scania K230UB/ ADL Enviro300
28747 to 28748 for Lillyhall Depot, Cumbria & North Lancs (Gold Spec)
Optare Solo SR
47941 to 47966 for Carlisle Depot, Cumbria & North Lancs
Optare Solo SLR
48001 to 48002 for Carlisle Depot, Cumbria & North Lancs (Honister Spec)
From http://stagecoachgroup.***********.org/index.php?component=content&topicid=754
on order for 2015-2016 are:
Scania N230UD/ ADL Enviro400
15221 to 15225 for Lillyhall Depot, Cumbria & North Lancs (Gold Spec)
Scania K230UB/ ADL Enviro300
28747 to 28748 for Lillyhall Depot, Cumbria & North Lancs (Gold Spec)
Optare Solo SR
47941 to 47966 for Carlisle Depot, Cumbria & North Lancs
Optare Solo SLR
48001 to 48002 for Carlisle Depot, Cumbria & North Lancs (Honister Spec)
darrenw29
Member
Looked to be about 12 new Solos in Carlisle depot today.
jonesy3001
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What are the actual movements around the fleet when the solos go into service.
10030 is back from Sheffield.
10030 is back from Sheffield.
jonesy3001
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I know morecambe are getting darts from carlisle and rumoured that the Lillyhall MAN E300s might be coming as well, but it's just a wait and see what turns up thing.
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robertclark125
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When east Scotland receives the new E300s for Dunfermline depot for route 19, which should be in August, the existing MAN E300s are being moved elsewhere. What you may have in fact heard is some of the Fife examples being moved to Morecambe.
darrenw29
Member
Is the total pvr at Carlisle to drop at all with the service changes?
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22149 in service from LILLYHALL today. Has there been a few breakdowns?
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22149 in service from LILLYHALL today. Has there been a few breakdowns?
KendalKing
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Taken from the Stagecoach website
Road Closure - Hest Bank Lane from Monday 18th May 2015
From Monday 18th May 2015, Hest Bank Lane will be closed between its junction with the A6 to Throstle Grove for up to 25 weeks. This is to allow sewer works to take place.
Service 55, 55A and 55C will be diverted to operate along Shady Lane and Manor Lane before or after serving Peacock Lane then back onto the A6 near Slyne Lodge.
Services Affected: 2A, 2X, 3, 3A, 7, 10, 40, 40A, 41, 42, 42, 80, 81, 81A, 81B, 555, 555, 555
Originally Posted: 04 June 2014 1:22 PM
Since when has the University, Preston & Blackpool buses operated via Hest Bank ?
Road Closure - Hest Bank Lane from Monday 18th May 2015
From Monday 18th May 2015, Hest Bank Lane will be closed between its junction with the A6 to Throstle Grove for up to 25 weeks. This is to allow sewer works to take place.
Service 55, 55A and 55C will be diverted to operate along Shady Lane and Manor Lane before or after serving Peacock Lane then back onto the A6 near Slyne Lodge.
Services Affected: 2A, 2X, 3, 3A, 7, 10, 40, 40A, 41, 42, 42, 80, 81, 81A, 81B, 555, 555, 555
Originally Posted: 04 June 2014 1:22 PM
Since when has the University, Preston & Blackpool buses operated via Hest Bank ?
Whistler40145
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Had a trip on 22817 on the service 42 @ 16:40 from Lancaster to Poulton yesterday, obviously a short notice replacement?
jonesy3001
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Probably a get what you're given day with the diversions on the route to Carnforth as some 55s interwork with the 42.
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Hi
Heard a rumour but that's all it is a rumour that only thirteen of the 200's are being retained at Carlisle the rest are being transfered within the group with a number going to Yorkshire
Regards
Ernie
Blindtraveler
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A randem Q here, but is the Northwest Explorer day ticket (£10.80) valid on the 42 to Blackpool?
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