I have no words.
AGA currently have "Cycle Marshals" at Cambridge, though this is for outside the station to help educate about and enforce the parking restrictions
and how do these 'cycle marshals' know the destination? Surely they would be better placed on the platforms, and once the new limit has been reached, they then should be advising the customer, that they are unable to travel on that service. Too confrontational for them perhaps, however the guard is the one who has to suffer the abuse of cyclist number 5 to however many show up afterwards. MTSO's do nothing, or perhaps it is indeed these, who are now the CM's, hence the reason they are based outside the station.
Limited space has nothing to do with it.
and how do these 'cycle marshals' know the destination?
Did you read what the OP said the marshals actually do or?
Limited space as a lot to do with cycle restrictions doesn't it?
Someone in jest (I forget if it was a colleague or passenger) suggested we should strip out a coach in our 170s so it is just a glorified van. Then we can carry all the bikes, pushchairs, wheelchairs, small cars, large dogs and similar items in one easy place.
Someone in jest (I forget if it was a colleague or passenger) suggested we should strip out a coach in our 170s so it is just a glorified van. Then we can carry all the bikes, pushchairs, wheelchairs, small cars, large dogs and similar items in one easy place.
or indeed make better use of the redundant guard/parcel compartment on some 170's, that have been locked out of use for how many years now?
scott118, why do bicycles make you so angry?
bicycles dont make me angry. It's their owners who insist that because they have a ticket, they can bring anything along with them. AGA have a cycle policy, as do many other TOC's. People have used all manner of pressure to bully their way onto trains, thinking that it's their right. AGA wouldn't support the guard, who has exceeded their cycle policy. It's in all of their literature, so the guard has no legs, should an incident occur. Is it right to potentially leave a wheelchair bound passenger for an additional hour on a platform with few, if any facilities, purely because the guard has been intimidated into carrying excessive cycles? Which is more disrespectful? How do you safely evacuate a unit, when a section is completely blocked by cycles and their protecting owners?
I am a cyclist. I compete in national race series, so i'm no way anti bikes. I guess it is all a question of attitude in the end.
Cyclists have taken their bikes on trains for years, the problem was taking away the guards van's in order to cram in more seats - on the GEML all of the Class 312's had a large guards van that could be used for bikes.
People travelling with large luggage and bikes have not been catered for, it is hardly the cyclists fault that not enough accomodation has been provided for them.
this is for outside the station to help educate about and enforce the parking restrictions..parking restrictions? is that the same as 'carriage' of cycles? or are you suggesting that cyclist's arrive at CBG, disembark the train, and have nowhere to store their cycle, before completing their journey? People have abused the carriage of cycles over time and now see it as a god given right to have their cycles with them.
Have you ever asked an owner of a folding cycle to actually collapse it, as it's designed to do, to allow more space for others? Some politely oblige however some are really shocked that you should even suggest such a thing as it will delay their journey even further.
Taking a company stance, just leads the uneducated into thinking that you yourself, are indeed, a jobsworth and such other unpleasantaries..Being supported by posters, leaflets and indeed, other company representatives, would surely lead to less abuse for those, simply trying to do their job, in a safer working environment.
I'm not suggesting anything other than you appeared to misunderstand what jopsuk said about the cycle marshals.
I've dealt with my fair share of this when I worked on the platforms but as a driver now I don't really have a say and the services I work are DOO so nobody does. So why would a guard want to limit cycles on their service? For space of course?
The cycle marshals I mentioned are outside the station to direct people arriving to catch trains to the current cycle parking locations and to stop them simply using the nearest lamp post, fence etc (partly because said fence, post might not be there later that day!). As far as I know they're nothing to do with enforcing the rules on bikes on trains, which are fairly complex anyway as they vary with the operator, time and destination.
Good morning. As a DOO driver, you're only concern is what's in front of your driving controls, not what's behind your vestibule door. No disrespect, but you won't be the point of contact unless you find yourself in the middle of an emergency. Of which, prudent use of the PA would stop them knocking to ask questions...
Bullying individual's are less likely to kick off, with platform staff, a guard and MTSO's present, hopefully...
Yep i understand this to be the case also, however those that are to be placed upon the platforms advising of the limit's of carriage are the MTSO's. Bullying individual's are less likely to kick off, with platform staff, a guard and MTSO's present, hopefully...
IMO commuters are far far worse for being aggressive with staff than leisure travellers, simply because they believe they know exactly how the system works and a lot believe they could do a far better job, you only have to look at Twitter to realise that! Just because they believe they should be able to take their bike onto the train automatically means they can and will do.
Also, who is being placed on the platforms to deal with this?
The barrier guard made me que again yesterday despite me telling him it would not work, and i missed my train.
Got to Norwich Customer service kiosk on the platform they told me nobody could see me but offered a £10 voucher,i said there is a board at the front of the station saying a customer service rep is available they said they had never seen it.
I then went to the board and phoned upstairs they apparently only had one person available who would not see me.
My tickets have all week have not worked in the Harlow Town machine (Harlow to Cambridge) or any of the machines in Cambridge or Norwich i was told at Cambridge by their customer service that the Anglia Plus weekly season covers such a large distance it may not Work at the gates,most have let me through but this man yesterday made me miss my train.
This is the kind of thing they're really bad at. I don't get it. There seems to be a culture endemic throughout the company of assuming the customer is trying to rip them off. Instead of applying common sense, and fair revenue protection policies, they have a number of jobsworth aggressive employees who do this kind of thing all the time. Bernard on LST barriers is the same, and an old guy called 'Dave'.
Until whoever runs the line sorts out this kind of attitude problem, they'll be forever fighting an uphill battle.
Yes they need more ticket guys like the lovely west indian guy at Harlow Town station always ready with a laugh and a joke especially about english cricket !,really really lovely guy on the barriers those that have bumped into him will remember him.
Greater Anglia has some really great staff but they as ever are let down by the "Jobsworths" sadly.
This is the kind of thing they're really bad at. I don't get it. There seems to be a culture endemic throughout the company of assuming the customer is trying to rip them off. Instead of applying common sense, and fair revenue protection policies, they have a number of jobsworth aggressive employees who do this kind of thing all the time. Bernard on LST barriers is the same, and an old guy called 'Dave'.
Until whoever runs the line sorts out this kind of attitude problem, they'll be forever fighting an uphill battle.
Yes they need more ticket guys like the lovely west indian guy at Harlow Town station always ready with a laugh and a joke especially about english cricket !,really really lovely guy on the barriers those that have bumped into him will remember him.
Greater Anglia has some really great staff but they as ever are let down by the "Jobsworths" sadly.
There is a lovely guard usually operates on the sheringham ,lowestoft,Cambridge lines who has some good one liners such as "young persons rail pass" i would say he is in his 60s and about 6ft tall but has a lovely jokey way about him even if you are fed up he brightens the day up on one trip he was running out of small change those in the carriage all had a whip round and he gave us £1 coins for loose change to the same value..
I got a ticket from Cheshunt yesterday, from the ticket office as I didn't have time to buy on my app to collect.
So I go and ask for a Tottenham Hale to Welwyn Garden City single, with Gold Card discount, and via Victoria Line north.
She then goes to look at my Gold Card and starts really staring at it. I realise she must be looking at what stations it covers, as she then says 'But how will you get from here to Tottenham Hale?'. Rather than say 'none of your business' I say 'Oyster' and she asks to see it! (Note, see it as in visually see I have one, not to read it to see if I have anything on it!).
And so on...
Or with different spin applied;
Attentive member of ticket office staff ensures a passenger is purchasing the correct ticket for the journey they are making and offering alternative tickets and services that may be more suitable.
Jeez, I guess you would argue the vampire was only asking to come in to use the toilet!