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I don't think I'd be too happy if someone stood in the middle of a carriage and started taking pictures. Not exactly normal behaviour is it?
Well the image seems to be taken on a phone and these days, that is an everyday thing now - welcome to 2015! Would you know when someone taken an image of you on a phone? The chances are unlikely.
 
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I wondered what those things were that were in the bits between the vestibules. Seats! Never seen them at St. Albans. I genuinely cannot remember the last time I got on a 319 and there was nobody standing, any day of the week, any time of day.
 

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Doesn't that mean that passengers will at least see some daylight between November and February at those high latitudes? :)
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Not only latitude but altitude. The air is much thinner in Edge Hill than Lime Street after that long incline
 

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I don't think I'd be too happy if someone stood in the middle of a carriage and started taking pictures. Not exactly normal behaviour is it?

It's a completely normal thing as far as I'm aware?

Most people would probably assume it was a selfie, and even if it wasn't it would probably be some sort of snapchat saying "Look how sleepy everyone is" or "Look, a new train" or whatever.

This is the 21st century.
 

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I'm working my way through yesterday's material and have added some more.

Some are mine, some are thanks to Paul Gaskell and some thanks to David Hilton.

I've received others from others which I'll wang on this evening, plus the last of my own.

What a fab day it was.

Dave
 

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Doesn't that mean that passengers will at least see some daylight between November and February at those high latitudes? :)
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So which trains would make for 'happy faces' when "cruising through the Edge Hill tunnels towards Lime Street" on the way to work on the 08:40?


Interesting that somebody has used the overhead shelf when there are seats without bums or feet on them!

You really shouldn't take me too seriously, I do try to use the laughing smilies as much as possible! :lol:
 

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You really shouldn't take me too seriously, I do try to use the laughing smilies as much as possible! :lol:

I don't by why take the name of a racehorse?
To be honest, I would be a bit worried if I got on a commuter train and saw everybody smiling. First I'd check my dress, then check whether it was a party booking to the seaside and the seats were reserved. :)
 

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I don't by why take the name of a racehorse?
To be honest, I would be a bit worried if I got on a commuter train and saw everybody smiling. First I'd check my dress, then check whether it was a party booking to the seaside and the seats were reserved. :)

Do you regularly wear a dress? With or without stockings and heels?
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You really shouldn't take me too seriously, I do try to use the laughing smilies as much as possible! :lol:

Are you the head end or back end of the pantomime horse?
 
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Well the image seems to be taken on a phone and these days, that is an everyday thing now - welcome to 2015! Would you know when someone taken an image of you on a phone? The chances are unlikely.

I'll consider my wrists well and truly slapped by you and the other one! I'd still be wary of someone stood on their own taking pics in a carriage though unless they're trout pouting.
 

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Do you regularly wear a dress? With or without stockings and heels?

I presume that you don't remember the notices that were once posted in Gents Puiblic Conveniences. But I'll play along:

....only when I'm working at weekends. :)
 

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Do you regularly wear a dress? With or without stockings and heels?
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That made me laugh - I once had one of my supervisors tell me that he had spotted me off duty in a department store ....on saying I had not noticed him - he said I would not have , as he was dressed as a woman , shopping with his wife. Off topic I know ....
 

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Do you regularly wear a dress? With or without stockings and heels?
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That made me laugh - I once had one of my supervisors tell me that he had spotted me off duty in a department store ....on saying I had not noticed him - he said I would not have , as he was dressed as a woman , shopping with his wife. Off topic I know ....

I won't offend the sensibilities of our friend north of the Border by mentioning kilts. End of off topic.
 

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This thread is degenerating! Now that the job is done perhaps it is time the mods closed it and let's focus on Manchester-Blackpool!
 

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any idea when they will be?
Next month or two for Manchester Victoria (there is a blockade between 3 to 6 April) at Victoria, and a bit longer for Huyton to Wigan, as work still needs doing at Carr Mill and Springs Branch.
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Just for your info these are the confirmed runs that will be worked by 319s until the May timetable change which will then see further 319's introduced.

0616,0716,0916,1215,1416,1516,1713,1814 Liverpool-Man Air and 0735,0840,1040,1340,1540,1640,1840,1940 Man Air-Liverpool

Is that just Monday to Friday?

What about Saturday workings?

Got on the the 08:40 from Manchester Airport at St Helens Junction at 09:22 and was bitterly disappointed to find a 156.
 

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Next month or two for Manchester Victoria (there is a blockade between 3 to 6 April) at Victoria, and a bit longer for Huyton to Wigan, as work still needs doing at Carr Mill and Springs Branch.
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Is that just Monday to Friday?

What about Saturday workings?

Got on the the 08:40 from Manchester Airport at St Helens Junction at 09:22 and was bitterly disappointed to find a 156.

So it looks as though ManVic and the Wigan line could be tested soon after Easter as there does not appear to be too much work still to do.

Will there be enough refurbished 319s to work them by April?

As for the 156 this morning, I understood that the electric workings are Mon-Fri only at the moment, and then only 2 out of 3 diagrams. I'm not sure why, does anyone know? Do they still have to isolate the catenary at weekends to finish off outstanding work? Do they have enough crews trained yet? They do appear to have enough 319s to work all the MIA trips by now.
 

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Wigan and Manchester Vic drivers also need to keep route-retention on the Chat Moss, you will probably find that when the Manchester Vic-Liverpool stopping trains hopefully start in May they won't all be 319s, it will take a fortnight to train and pass out every driver on the 319s, Wigan and Man Vic have knocking on for 300 drivers between them - those so far trained can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

The current diagrams (AN231 and AN232) were posted in their entirety (on the 319 thread I think) a couple of weeks ago by myself.
 

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Make it Friday, they're not running Saturday's apart from the driver training runs.

No Saturdays yet but ...

Next month or two for Manchester Victoria (there is a blockade between 3 to 6 April) at Victoria, and a bit longer for Huyton to Wigan, as work still needs doing at Carr Mill and Springs Branch.
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Is that just Monday to Friday?

What about Saturday workings?

Got on the the 08:40 from Manchester Airport at St Helens Junction at 09:22 and was bitterly disappointed to find a 156.

I hope that all MIA trains will be 319s in the May timetable. I was hoping that all MCV trains would be 319s in May too, but due to driver training it seems this may take a bit longer.
 

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So it looks as though ManVic and the Wigan line could be tested soon after Easter as there does not appear to be too much work still to do.

Will there be enough refurbished 319s to work them by April?

As for the 156 this morning, I understood that the electric workings are Mon-Fri only at the moment, and then only 2 out of 3 diagrams. I'm not sure why, does anyone know? Do they still have to isolate the catenary at weekends to finish off outstanding work? Do they have enough crews trained yet? They do appear to have enough 319s to work all the MIA trips by now.

There won't be ANY fully refurbished Northern 319s by April this year
A proper refurbish will be in the new franchise when the 319s will get Universal Toilets etc during their next C6 (before 2020)
To date they've just got a good refresh
Brian
 

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Looks like they might get aircon too in the full refurb. Porterbrook have an option for aircon, though it requires an upgraded auxiliary power unit (aka hotel power). They'll probably have to do aux power for WiFi anyway, and certainly if they want power sockets. I wonder if bidders will want to go to 2+2 seating.
 

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This may be of interest to you. Ince Moss chord to be considered live. New in the Weekly ops but dated live from the 22nd Feb.
Quick query for any northern drivers on here, do you sign it? At VT we don't (nor St Helens Central)
 
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