East Midlands HST Plug Sockets

[thegrimeater]

Morning,

Tomorrow I am going on the UKRailtours trip to Manchester with an EM HST. Do the seats have plug sockets like East Coast? I am in coach B seat 44 I think (ticket at home, I'm at work)

Thanks in advance

 

[LowLevel]

No. 1st class only.

 

[thegrimeater]

No. 1st class only.

Fair enough thank you. I wasn't desperate, it was just to decide whether to chuck my charger in my bag.

 

[DRS68001]

yes EMT HST 125 DO HAVE PLUG SOCKETS IN standard class

 

[Kettledrum]

yes EMT HST 125 DO HAVE PLUG SOCKETS IN standard class

I must have missed them then!

On the ones I've been on, the class 222 units do, the old HSTs don't.

 

[CallySleeper]

yes EMT HST 125 DO HAVE PLUG SOCKETS IN standard class

No they don't. Also welcome to the forum, no sticky caps please.

 

[Aictos]

No need to use Capital Letters as it's the online version of shouting and is quite uncouth, thank you very much.

Back to answer the OP's question, I can't comment on the airline seats but when I travelled from Darlington to Peterborough with East Coast on the loaned EMT set, there defo was power sockets for the table seats in Standard.

I should know I was charging my nearly dead iPhone up with one of the plugs.

 

[thegrimeater]

No need to use Capital Letters as it's the online version of shouting and is quite uncouth, thank you very much.

Back to answer the OP's question, I can't comment on the airline seats but when I travelled from Darlington to Peterborough with East Coast on the loaned EMT set, there defo was power sockets for the table seats in Standard.

I should know I was charging my nearly dead iPhone up with one of the plugs.

I have a table seat so I will take my charger. thank you

 

[louis97]

East Midlands Trains HST sets do not have plug sockets in Standard Class. East Coast fitted plug sockets themselves to the HST set they have from East Midlands Trains.

 

[Aictos]

East Midlands Trains HST sets do not have plug sockets in Standard Class. East Coast fitted plug sockets themselves to the HST set they have from East Midlands Trains.

I apologise then, I thought EMT had fitted them not East Coast as it was at the time only a loaned set and as such thought any such work would have been done only by EMT with East Coast paying of course.

 

[FQ]

I would like to say that from my experience, EMT HSTs don't have plug sockets in standard.

 

[yorkie]

They have power sockets in luggage racks, but they might not be quite up to the high standards required to be officially available for public use. I have used them though; if you sit at the seats nearest the luggage rack and have a long enough cable it is possible.

But officially, no they don't.

 

[bb21]

No charger in Standard on EMT HSTs as others have said, however they are available in the buffet car of First, as opposed to East Coast, who have them in Standard but not the buffet car of First.

 

[455driver]

They have power sockets in luggage racks, but they might not be quite up to the high standards required to be officially available for public use. I have used them though; if you sit at the seats nearest the luggage rack and have a long enough cable it is possible.

But officially, no they don't.

They are used for vacuum cleaners when the train is stabled in the platform with the engine idling or the shore supply attached.

When the train is running the voltage can vary immensely (I have heard up to 600V) and the frequency jumps all over the place.
After seeing how hot a blokes phone and charger got when using them I wouldnt plug any electrical item of mine in them.

 

[Bald Rick]

They are used for vacuum cleaners when the train is stabled in the platform with the engine idling or the shore supply attached.

When the train is running the voltage can vary immensely (I have heard up to 600V) and the frequency jumps all over the place.
After seeing how hot a blokes phone and charger got when using them I wouldnt plug any electrical item of mine in them.

I've known two railway colleagues lose laptops by plugging into similar sockets on MkIII hauled stock. Laptops don't like neutral sections apparently.

 

[21C101]

I've known two railway colleagues lose laptops by plugging into similar sockets on MkIII hauled stock. Laptops don't like neutral sections apparently.

LOL Theres a reason why the european harmonised emc standard series for railways specifies rather larger immunity levels for things on or within 10m of a railway track than those applied to standard residential and commercial goods like laptops..........

 

[brianthegiant]

I think you are mixing up between EM interference (the buzz you get on FM radios near power electrics/electronics) and the problem under discussion which is the voltage and frequency variation in the on-board electrical supply. Each can cause the other in extremis but they're still seperate things.

 

[Nym]

Brian, they're the same standards...

RIA-12, RIA-13 and EN50155 Railway Electronics and EN50121 Railway EMC, includes power supply quality.

Mk.IIIA's MAs I believe will be at the RIA-13 (older) standards, and if that is the case then they can significantly over-volt and over frequency on startup before the MA Regulator will tune it down to where it's ment to be.

On the Mk.IIIs I beleive it hangs off the 3 phase bus line, and that can vary just as wildly.