159 plug sockets

[Minilad]

Anyone know if 159s have at seat plug sockets fitted

TIA

 

[ValleyLines142]

I believe only in First Class.

 

[Minilad]

I believe only in First Class.

Thanks. I will be in first so thats fine

 

[455driver]

Only at some first class seats, not all!

 

[59CosG95]

Have the 159s had their midlife overhaul yet?
I think, if they haven't, plug sockets at every seat would curry favours with lots of passengers (self included!).

 

[Nym]

*feels his blood start to boil*

Are they plugs or sockets...

Assuming you're all talking about a BS1363 Fixed Receptacle then that would be a Socket!.

Just because I mainly work with aerospace connectors nowadays doesn't mean I've forgotten the BS definitions for building services. Don't know why but this always really, really gets my back up when people call sockets plugs, strangely it's not the other way round.

Anyone who's traveled on the 350/3s and paid attention will notice this same mistake, it doesn't mean that it's forgivable.

 

[Feathers44]

*feels his blood start to boil*

Are they plugs or sockets...

Assuming you're all talking about a BS1363 Fixed Receptacle then that would be a Socket!.

Just because I mainly work with aerospace connectors nowadays doesn't mean I've forgotten the BS definitions for building services. Don't know why but this always really, really gets my back up when people call sockets plugs, strangely it's not the other way round.

Anyone who's traveled on the 350/3s and paid attention will notice this same mistake, it doesn't mean that it's forgivable.

[OFFTOPIC]Even aerospace connectors can still be classified as plugs and sockets, it's just not quite as simple as 'the one on the end of the lead is a plug'. (Sorry, I'm a professional linguistic pedant. I know that you know this!)

To digress further, I was astonished at work one day (large aerospace company) to hear an engineer asking what the difference between a male and female connector was.[/OFFTOPIC]

My appologies, back to the 159 sockets discussion...

 

[PaxVobiscum]

Thank you, Nym, you beat me to it.

I have up to now seen no need for signatures in this forum, but this thread has changed my mind. Inspired by the signature of a certain respected contributor here I must now append the following to every post:

You probably mean an AC power outlet

 

[Nym]

[OFFTOPIC]Even aerospace connectors can still be classified as plugs and sockets, it's just not quite as simple as 'the one on the end of the lead is a plug'. (Sorry, I'm a professional linguistic pedant. I know that you know this!)

To digress further, I was astonished at work one day (large aerospace company) to hear an engineer asking what the difference between a male and female connector was.[/OFFTOPIC]

My appologies, back to the 159 sockets discussion...

[OFFTOPIC]
For the MIL-DTL type connectors (5015, 26482 and 38999 for example) you have a great deal of definitions, Free / Fixed / Flange / Box, then Male / Female shells, then Male / Female contacts(!) Not to mention the Harting Han type connectors starting to come into my industry that can have both in the same housing...

And knowing some 'Engineers' and to be honest, especially those in aerospace that get rushed into CEng from university so they can sign off documents. I wouldn't be surprised that a graduate would be rammed into a role, with no proper training on the realities of putting things together.

Just shows a lack of proper training when people are brought into industries.
[/OFFTOPIC]

I can let off members of the public for some of these things, but it still needs correction.

But to paraphrase the 350/3, "This plug is for laptops and mobile phones only." really does need correcting!

For the 159s, the addition of extra auxiliaries that hang off the alternators may be an issue, but one problem (that of finding RIA12 approved inverters rather than the new EN50155 and EN50121 standards) is getting simpler as more companies realize the potential of retro-fitting older stock with more demanding aux supplies.
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Thank you, Nym, you beat me to it.

I have up to now seen no need for signatures in this forum, but this thread has changed my mind. Inspired by the signature of a certain respected contributor here I must now append the following to every post:

You probably mean an AC power outlet

You may want to further qualify that to be a BS1363 one, knowing some pedants on the forum. Since we also have in common use in this country EN60309 connectors of many types.

 

[talltim]

No-one in this thread has called them plugs. Plug sockets isn't a great name, but it isn't wrong, they are sockets for plugs, as opposed, for example, for sockets for wrenches
Me, I call them mains sockets...

 

[edwin_m]

If a train station is a station for trains, then a plug socket must be a socket for plugs.

 

[3141]

Have the 159s had their midlife overhaul yet?
I think, if they haven't, plug sockets at every seat would curry favours with lots of passengers (self included!).

They had a major refurbishment in 2005/6 (if I remember correctly). The 159/0s first, followed by the conversion of various 158 units to 159/1s. and then 11 2-car 158s similarly refurbished.

 

[Blindtraveler]

They must now be due at least a lick of paint and some seat covers, as must many of the 444s and 450s?

 

[swt_passenger]

They must now be due at least a lick of paint and some seat covers, as must many of the 444s and 450s?

Apart from instances of random vandalism I don't think I've yet seen a worn seat cover on an SWT Desiro, I think they are holding up very well in that respect.

 

[Lrd]

Apart from instances of random vandalism I don't think I've yet seen a worn seat cover on an SWT Desiro, I think they are holding up very well in that respect.

The only thing I think the Desiros could do with is a repaint on the roof and a good scrub in the toilets.

 

[3141]

They must now be due at least a lick of paint and some seat covers, as must many of the 444s and 450s?

I think the 159s are in very good condition both inside and out, which is probably a credit to both Wabtec, who did the refurbishment, and Salisbury depot who maintain them.

But I did notice last week, for the first time, a frayed seat cover. It was on the outer edge, where the leg of a person going to sit next to the window pushes past it.

 

[Blindtraveler]

I think SWT are lucky in that much of there stock ends up in the same place regularly, not a luxury many other TOCs have. Still, I think, given that much of the SWT DMU Opperation is longer distance, plugs are a must now!

 

[Deerfold]

If a train station is a station for trains, then a plug socket must be a socket for plugs.

I assume you're just trying to wind people up there?

 

[TEW]

I think the 159s are in very good condition both inside and out, which is probably a credit to both Wabtec, who did the refurbishment, and Salisbury depot who maintain them.

But I did notice last week, for the first time, a frayed seat cover. It was on the outer edge, where the leg of a person going to sit next to the window pushes past it.

The 159/0s and 158s are in very good condition. However the 159/1s suffer from worn and thin seat cushions which makes them rather uncomfortable compared to the rest of the DMU fleet.