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Which is your favourite fictional railway/ public transport?

Rather than the usual transport debates (why an as yet unbuilt train won’t be as good as the ones I grew up with, why my local area gets underinvested in, why one corporate group is always the hero/villain etc), here’s something different – I’m not sure which section to put it in, so feel free to move it...

Which is your favourite fictional railway/ public transport?

A few contenders:

Ivor The Engine: I was most disappointed when I first visited the “top left hand corner of Wales” to find it was nothing like the stories about the Merioneth and Llantisilly Railway Traction Company Limited had suggested! Plus points for using dragons as a fuel source (something ecological that the real life railways have yet to embrace), but I don’t remember any stock other than Ivor (?). Having just the one engine would have made life dull for Welsh trainspotters.

Thomas The Tank Engine: Sodor always seemed a fairly accurate depiction of a railway - apart from the crazy numbering system that resembles First Group’s attempts to randomly put a five digit number on all of their buses (e.g. if Thomas is number one then surely another tank engine like Percy should similarly have a low number? But number two is Edward – surely he should be numbered in sequence with James? – little things like this can rankle!). The plot always seemed to be the same (redemption so that you could once again become a Really Useful Engine), but then there’s not that many stories you can crowbar into a series about railways (and the Thomas series has probably got more stories than any other “franchise”). Some amusing moments, like when the different engines were arguing about the name of the terminus in London (i.e. Duck thought it was Paddington, as a GWR engine would, Gordon thought it was Kings Cross) – that would have gone over most kids’ heads. Donald and Douglas’s accents seemed a bit over the top though.

Chuggington: Resembles a railway if HSTed were ever to be put in charge (:lol:) – there are lines everywhere – are there even any roads, or is everything done on rails? Plus points for having a BR blue Class 37 (Brewster), but minus points for only giving him one cab.

Underground Ernie – never watched it, but see the toys in charity shops from time to time – has anyone seen it?

On The Buses – never seen it so can’t comment on how realistic it was

Eastenders – not watched it in a while, there was always a (surprisingly shiny) red Routemaster on the number 15 plus an Underground station (though I don’t think I ever saw the stock involved, just heard it rumbling underneath)

Coronation Street – another programme I’ve not watched in ages (who needs Soap Operas when there’s there’s this Forum...). I think there’s a tram in the title sequence, but does anyone ever use it in episodes? Back in my day I remember an orange minibus running round the back streets (GM Buses, presumably, though whether this was in the “GM” or after the “north” “south” split, I don’t recall)

Any others?
 
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Never cared from Thomas the Tank Engine, Chuggington is where it's at (can't get the theme tune out of my head now, cheers!).

Eastenders is filmed in Elstree so any noise is added later, but IIRC it takes the place of Stepney East on the map as and when needed.

The tram line is a fair distance from Coronation Street, it's superimposed. The most famous storyline involving it of late is where a pub exploded underneath one of the viaduct arches and a tram in turn drove over it and onto the street below, towering like a Transformer or something, when in reality it would have snapped like a twig. Watching that episode was very disappointing for me, as I kind of hoped they would've killed everyone off and had done with the damn thing.
 

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Never cared from Thomas the Tank Engine, Chuggington is where it's at (can't get the theme tune out of my head now, cheers!).

Are you deranged? Chugginton is a cheap Yankee copy of a British classic! And don’t get me started on the number of HSEA breaches depicted on Chugginton Railways.







;)

Thomas for me.
 

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Chuggington is excellent!!!

But the Springfield monorail was a proper good waste of money system - even more so than Sydneys monorail :)
 

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Ah, Underground Ernie - or how Gary Lineker came to run a railway network. Two carriage trains, three members of staff, about five people travelling the whole network at a time... must be even easier to run than c2c!

As for Thomas the Tank Engine, the North Western Railway's accident rate must single-handedly keep the RAIB in work. The engines don't seem to need staff either, they can switch tracks at will, run without intervention from their driver/fireman. A hidden agenda for DOO at HiT? ;)
 

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But the Springfield monorail was a proper good waste of money system - even more so than Sydneys monorail :)

Ooo yes thats a good one! Another monorail that comes to mind is in Thunderbirds - appears a few times but I always think has a great juxtaposition of a 1960s view of the future, and 1960s customer service.

The Titfield Thunderbolt - steam engine taken from a local museum to cover a railway being closed - paid for by a local businessman who wanted to spend all day taking advantage of the lack of restriction on sales of alcohol onboard moving trains...
 

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Ooo yes thats a good one! Another monorail that comes to mind is in Thunderbirds - appears a few times but I always think has a great juxtaposition of a 1960s view of the future, and 1960s customer service.

And just like the one in The Simpsons, wasn't exactly very successful!
 

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Many of the plots of the Rev W Awdry's books are based on real incidents on the railway in the pre and post war period. Gordon getting stuck on the hill, Percy in the drink, an engine spinning on a turntable in high winds, and almost all the accidents - real stories given a bit of artistic licence.
 

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Well I just wrote out a large reply to this and then the system decided I wasn't logged in !!!

So here goes again

Bethlehem Ares Railroad - on Mars, using nuclear powered steam locos.
As featured in the good Desolation Road (which is the name of a station).
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/278284.Desolation_Road

There is also a follow-up called Ares Express.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/278279.Ares_Express

Darnley Mills & Devils Back Light Railway - narrow gauge line somewhere in the north of England linking a small port with the mainline to Scotland.

Steam On The Line features the introduction of steam power to the line in the mif 19th century. War On The Darnel includes the railway being revived as a preservation project in the 1960s (though the railway isn't the main plot of the book#).http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13501694-steam-on-the-line

More when I can think of them.
 

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If we're talking about public transport, my favourite has to be the airplane in "Airplane".

I also enjoy "On the Buses" (my mum confirms that the living conditions were realisticaly depicted for the time).

Also anything where a Southern slammer makes a guest appearance "The Sweeney" was good for this.
 

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Fast, cheap, plenty of room, comfortable, convenient times, frequent service, Train changes being kept to a minimum, clean and being focused on the needs of the passenger before profit.
This is fictional!
 

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Fast, cheap, plenty of room, comfortable, convenient times, frequent service, Train changes being kept to a minimum, clean and being focused on the needs of the passenger before profit.
This is fictional!

Plenty of room and comfortable wasn't fiction when talking about the good old days (on the Southern region at any rate !).
 

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Casey Jones was a sort of western built around a railroad. The outside footage of the Cannonball Express looked good but like all TV westerns, the plot was eminently forgettable.

For a bit of eye candy to a '60s teenager how about Petticoat Junction. The plots were rubbish, the train was a woodburning equivalent of a 153 but there were planty of well strapped-up girls on show living near a place conveniently called 'Hooterville'.

My kids grew up with image of idyllic Chigley with Lord Belborough' private railway.
 

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The ICBM train in Goldeneye :p
That was a Class 20 (D8188, I believe) in disguise overdubbed with the sounds of a EMD 567 engine:
Armour-train.jpg

Looking at that front end closely, I can see a faint resemblance to the Easter Island heads....

Not sure about the coaches, though.
 
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Looking at that front end closely, I can see a faint resemblance to the Easter Island heads....
It was inspired by the PRR T1, the steam locomotive with the world record for the highest speeds in reliable service ahead of the LNER A4.
 

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It was inspired by the PRR T1, the steam locomotive with the world record for the highest speeds in reliable service ahead of the LNER A4.
Ah, right. I can see the resemblance between them.

PRR T1
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'Soviet' Class 20
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Coronation Street – another programme I’ve not watched in ages (who needs Soap Operas when there’s there’s this Forum...). I think there’s a tram in the title sequence, but does anyone ever use it in episodes? Back in my day I remember an orange minibus running round the back streets (GM Buses, presumably, though whether this was in the “GM” or after the “north” “south” split, I don’t recall)

Any others?


I once saw a tram in Coronation street come crashing down from the bridge right into the street due to very very poorly maintained tram track. Luckily no passengers were on board and nobody in the street bothered to help the driver either. And the tram was one of Metrolinks brand new shiny ones too!
 

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Thomas The Tank Engine: Sodor always seemed a fairly accurate depiction of a railway - apart from the crazy numbering system that resembles First Group’s attempts to randomly put a five digit number on all of their buses (e.g. if Thomas is number one then surely another tank engine like Percy should similarly have a low number? But number two is Edward – surely he should be numbered in sequence with James? – little things like this can rankle!)

I visited the grandchildren at Poynton yesterday and there appears to be a full set of the hard-copy book versions there, one of which is Toby the Tram Engine, which appears to be similar to the motive power on the Wisbech and Upwell Tramway (GER class C53/LNER class J70).
 

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I visited the grandchildren at Poynton yesterday and there appears to be a full set of the hard-copy book versions there, one of which is Toby the Tram Engine, which appears to be similar to the motive power on the Wisbech and Upwell Tramway (GER class C53/LNER class J70).
Toby was indeed based on the GER Class C53/LNER Class J70. They were also used at the ports of of Great Yarmouth and Ipswich from the 1930s to the 1950s. The last example was withdrawn in 1955.
 

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Never cared from Thomas the Tank Engine, Chuggington is where it's at (can't get the theme tune out of my head now, cheers!)

Let's Ride the Rails!

:lol:

don’t get me started on the number of HSEA breaches depicted on Chugginton Railways

As for Thomas the Tank Engine, the North Western Railway's accident rate must single-handedly keep the RAIB in work. The engines don't seem to need staff either, they can switch tracks at will, run without intervention from their driver/fireman. A hidden agenda for DOO at HiT? ;)

I'm not sure which was more dangerous :lol:

But the Springfield monorail was a proper good waste of money system

Yeah, but it put North Haverbrook on the map...

Many of the plots of the Rev W Awdry's books are based on real incidents on the railway in the pre and post war period. Gordon getting stuck on the hill, Percy in the drink, an engine spinning on a turntable in high winds, and almost all the accidents - real stories given a bit of artistic licence.

Didn't know that - cheers


I enjoyed that - especially expecting it to be either very anti-enthusiast or anti-rail - good book.

Not sure how Discworld moves on from here, now they have football, railways etc, it's getting quite modern. Then again, they've had films and music from the early stories and they became forgotten about.
 

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Rock Island Line by Lonnie Donegan heralded the beginning of the skiffle craze in 1957 and was supposedly based on a real line in Chicago (?) It not only influenced me but a certain John Lennon, who later invited Donegan to join one of the Beatles' British tours.

On the Buses featured real Eastern National buses and exterior shots were filmed at their Wood Green (London) depot and in areas between there and Elstree, Herts. The bus conductor, Jack, was certainly a Jack-the-lad and I've known a few who sought to emulate him over the years. The mini-skirted conductresses I regret to say I never came across, except on one memorable occasion, but I seem to remember reading that when one of the Scottish bus companies (Strathclyde?) were introducing Routemasters they were looking to recruit young women for platform duties = not sure how they got round the sex discrimination legislation.
 

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Rock Island Line by Lonnie Donegan heralded the beginning of the skiffle craze in 1957 and was supposedly based on a real line in Chicago (?)


The Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad was definitely not fictional. It ceased operation in 1980. The version of the song by Little Richard is far better than Lonnie Donegan's.
 
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