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Cornwall Open Top Bus Service 300 2014

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No, First won't be hypocrites IF they find that their changes to the 300 have been successful enough to allow them to continue running it beyond the end of the current timetable. What an absurd suggestion! I've read enough of Mark Howarth's pronouncements. They are his opinions and they don't seem to be shared with all the other bus operators in Cornwall. His opinions are just that. His opinions. It doesn't mean he has the only or right view on life in the bus industry in a Cornwall.
 
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Here, here!

I don't think MH publicly slagging off the council was a very clever thing to do. Very business unsavvy in fact.
 

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First Kernow had a new style timetable booklet available at the Penzance information office yesterday and whilst I haven't had a chance to look through it in detail I did notice the X18 was missing.

Has this service been axed?

If it has I missed it being mentioned anywhere. I am not quite sure what the reason for this service was other than a sort of faster than normal journey between Penzance and Truro.It certainly wasn't every hour during any part of the day so perhaps it wasn't worth running it any more?

No chance for a "thrash" up or down the A30 in an old Olympian anymore if the service has gone! :(

Anyone know anything?

Just been told that it does still run albeit only one trip each way Monday to Friday so might as well not be running!
 
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First Kernow had a new style timetable booklet available at the Penzance information office yesterday and whilst I haven't had a chance to look through it in detail I did notice the X18 was missing.

Has this service been axed?

If it has I missed it being mentioned anywhere. I am not quite sure what the reason for this service was other than a sort of faster than normal journey between Penzance and Truro.It certainly wasn't every hour during any part of the day so perhaps it wasn't worth running it any more?

No chance for a "thrash" up or down the A30 in an old Olympian anymore if the service has gone! :(

Anyone know anything?

Just been told that it does still run albeit only one trip each way Monday to Friday so might as well not be running!

Yes, it was removed in the changes, but has been reinstated since then following customer requests. It's just one return peak time journey Mon to Fri. It is currently operated by a coach am. There is a second version of the timetable due out shortly as a reprint with corrections and the addition of the X18.
 
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Had my trip on the 300 and other services in the area earlier this week on a £15 First Kernow 2 day ticket.
Volvo Citybus vintage? They are nearly thirty years old. Has bus design reached perfection or stagnated? :D I was quite happy as I grew up in Weston-super-Mare and used to travel to school on them when they were initially leased to Badgerline. Definitely far from clapped out. The most rattly, rough sounding thing I travelled on was the XC Voyager from Plymouth to Bristol!
I think selling the First Day ticket is sensible in providing a simple ticket can be used all day to occasional bus users who see public transport as expensive for their one trip of the year home from the office Christmas drinks. Good selection of discounts too. A couple of pensioners with concessionary passes I spoke to travelling on another service were quite happy to pay the £5.00. (Same cost as parking at Land's End) They weren't interested in the vehicle, just to travel the route with someone else driving. They said they barely use their passes at home but it is the easiest way to get around the area. Another pensioner did rather annoy me delaying the 1A I was on for over 5 minutes complaining that it wasn't an open top then sat downstairs. It does state on the timetables it may not be possible.
I spent two days travelling on step entrance, usually from ground level buses, which ran late (Cornish time as one passenger described it). Camper van drivers-Learn the dimensions of your vehicle and how to manouvre it! There were no announcements or laser display boards and people coped with buggies, getting off at the right stop etc.
I think there should be accessible transport but I think the legislation is ill thought out. Possibly a minimum number of accesible vehicles per hour depending on the frequency with those times specified. However having been on a bus which lost 20 minutes loading and unloading 3 wheelchairs across San Francisco once punctuality will go out of the window. Still no help in Cornwall which is a bit of an operator's nightmare having to shift large crowds for a few months of the year while a minibus would usually suffice. It has long been the case that high capacity vehicles migrated to Cornwall after giving service elsewhere.
The driving standard was excellent by all bar one and good customer care was provided. I thoroughly enjoyed my two days in Penzance and beyond though I should have worn a hat in that sun!
 

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I think selling the First Day ticket is sensible in providing a simple ticket can be used all day to occasional bus users who see public transport as expensive for their one trip of the year home from the office Christmas drinks.

I recently travelled from Porthcawl to Cardiff on the Cymru Clipper all day ticket, which I though was excellent value something like £5 or £10. I thought that to be a bargain. Had I drove from Porthcawl to Cardiff and parked in the centre of Cardiff I would have been looking at least £20 in reality for the day with petrol and parking if not more.
 

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Readers of this thread may be interested to know that August Buses magazine has front cover picture of the Lodekka on the 300 and another inside with a News item on the changes this year, nothing controversial so the Firstgroupies needn't get out their smelling salts or consult their libel lawyers.
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By chance, driving behind an open-topper on 17B up Marazion by-pass today and it failed to do the right turn at the roundabout to take it down to Marazion. I followed it up to Perran Crossroads where it did a left down to Goldsithney as though it was doing a 2 short, along back to the roundabout and then down to Marazion, making no attempt to even slow down at any stops en route. Was this in fact scheduled to take account of the bit of route left uncovered when the 17B replaced the shorts on the 2 for the summer months or a driver error?
 

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Sounds like a driver error - the 17B timetable makes no mention of Goldsithney or Perran Crossroads, maybe he thought he was working the 2 when he went through Marazion!
 

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There is a Bristol VR being prepped at Camborne at present for relief to the Lodekka through the summer holidays.
 

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Sounds like a driver error - the 17B timetable makes no mention of Goldsithney or Perran Crossroads, maybe he thought he was working the 2 when he went through Marazion!

No, he couldn't have done because he'd come from the St Ives direction and had yet to go through Marazion. Could a Camborne driver without the local knowledge have been on loan? Or was the driver dreaming of the end of his shift, his love life or where to buy a decent pasty in Penzance? We may never know!
 

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No, he couldn't have done because he'd come from the St Ives direction and had yet to go through Marazion. Could a Camborne driver without the local knowledge have been on loan? Or was the driver dreaming of the end of his shift, his love life or where to buy a decent pasty in Penzance? We may never know!

According to the timetable it runs that route on Sundays and Public holidays.
 

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There is a Bristol VR being prepped at Camborne at present for relief to the Lodekka through the summer holidays.

Good good, Do you know which VR is returning to Cornwall for these services? Would be great to have a VR out of Penzance with what was Western National again?
 

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According to the timetable it runs that route on Sundays and Public holidays.

Quite right, I was on it a couple of weeks back and thought he'd taken a wrong turn but it goes anti clockwise into Goldsithney on Sundays
 

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According to the timetable it runs that route on Sundays and Public holidays.

Oops, sorry, obviously should have gone to Specsavers!

Related to the 547, First have announced a 14A from 4th August for four weeks only, weekdays 7 journeys each way, between St Ives and Hayle Towans, a facility formerly provided by the 547: 2 journeys each way extend to Camborne presumably for beginning and end of shift.
 

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Wondered how long it would take another operator to tap the potential income from Hayle Towans.
I did the 547 the other day and the only place where a significant number of people got on was Hayle Towans
 

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VR 1141 is now in service on the 300 on most days that the FLF doesn't operate. It has had a fresh repaint in Western National Tilling green and cream with black as worn by it since 2004. It looks absolutely splendid.

I also understand that the 300 is being extended for a few weeks into September, together with the 14A. Obviously must be proving a good summer for First Kernow.

Regarding the 547 it's been reported that on some days it has not run at all.
 

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VR 1141 is now in service on the 300 on most days that the FLF doesn't operate. It has had a fresh repaint in Western National Tilling green and cream with black as worn by it since 2004. It looks absolutely splendid.

I also understand that the 300 is being extended for a few weeks into September, together with the 14A. Obviously must be proving a good summer for First Kernow.

Regarding the 547 it's been reported that on some days it has not run at all.

Saw the green VR this morning and you are spot on Goldfish62 - it looks really nice. Shame I never had my camera with me!
 

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I went on FLF 2019 on the 300 on Saturday and very splendid it was too. VR 1141 has head gasket problems but should be back in service sometime this week.

The 547 didn't run at all on Saturday. I feel sorry for people who have to rely on Western Greyhound these days. I can't see this route returning next summer. Either that or First will have a go at running something.
 

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The 547 didn't run at all on Saturday. I feel sorry for people who have to rely on Western Greyhound these days.

Several of my colleagues are frequently late for work due to WG cancellations. Fortunately the employer is fairly understanding but in many employments where a 3 lates and your out existed they'd be long gone.

The 547 apparently isn't running due to a bus shortage.

What ran the 300 yesterday? An open topper I assume if VR1141 is out of service, as 824KDV was at the Plymouth Bus Rally
 
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The green VR is parked up at Camborne however the chocolate and cream VR has gone from here so is that the back up bus for the FLF?
 

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I went on FLF 2019 on the 300 on Saturday and very splendid it was too. VR 1141 has head gasket problems but should be back in service sometime this week.

The 547 didn't run at all on Saturday. I feel sorry for people who have to rely on Western Greyhound these days. I can't see this route returning next summer. Either that or First will have a go at running something.

Part of the route, the busiest bit, is covered by First's seasonal 14A now which runs hourly through the day between Hayle Towans and St Ives.
 

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Part of the route, the busiest bit, is covered by First's seasonal 14A now which runs hourly through the day between Hayle Towans and St Ives.

Which is now extended until the end of September.
 

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Seen Sat and Sun just to west of Marazion, in camping field visible from 17B, what looked to me like a late Leyland PD3 with Northern Counties body, rear entrance. From colour scheme, could be ex-Stockport? Didn't have camera either time nor able to get nearer, but might still be there Mon.
 

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Lodekka and the green VR both parked up at Camborne so be interested to know what is doing the 300 today. The green VR has not been fixed yet and is still parked in the same place that it was a week ago.
 
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