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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/7171049.stm

Train strikes lorry at crossing
A train has hit an articulated lorry on the Whitemoss level crossing between Gleneagles and Perth, it has emerged.
The line - the main Glasgow to Aberdeen route - is currently blocked following the accident which happened shortly before 0700 GMT on Friday.

The train, which had no passengers on board, is said to be at a standstill at Gleneagles station.

There are no reports of casualties and emergency services are still making their way to the scene.

It is believed the service was travelling from London to Inverness.
 
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That cab doesn't look to be in great shape to say the least. Now what would of happened of that was a shed? Maybe Jord might start crying ;)
 
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Problem at a level crossing between Stirling and Perth

Last Updated: 11:03
Route Affected: Glasgow Queen Street, Stirling, Perth & Dundee and Aberdeen / Inverness
TOC/s Affected: First ScotRail, National Express East Coast
Description: Services between Stirling and Perth are currently being disrupted due to a problem at a level crossing.

At present, services between Stirling and Perth are being diverted and will not call at Dunblane or Gleneagles. A limited replacement bus service will operate. Trains from Glasgow that terminate at Dunblane will run normally.

It is not known how long this disruption will last.
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Unless that just hasn't been updated, it' look like services are still disupted for passengers. It's quite a busy route to Perth, so a lot of passengers are affected.
 
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New bigger piccy on BBC News site:

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me123 said:
Unless that just hasn't been updated, it' look like services are still disupted for passengers. It's quite a busy route to Perth, so a lot of passengers are affected.
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Likely to be so for the rest of the day I;d imagine.
 
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So thanks to the bonnet on the 37 the driver was saved, otherwise he could have been killed
 
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^ At the time, BBC news said 1200 opening. Now, they're saying 1630. The train itself doesn't look too badly damaged; unlike the truck.
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Updates: 15:18 Services are continuing to be disrupted between Stirling to Perth. The line beyond Dunblane is expected to reopen at 17:00.
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Good news for commuters; they may be able to get home without too much hastle.
 
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That is probably the best argument to keep the 37s going!! Better crash protection than a 66... Ironic really, given they were designed in an era when such things weren't high up on the list of features!
 
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Sir_Clagalot said:
That is probably the best argument to keep the 37s going!! Better crash protection than a 66... Ironic really, given they were designed in an era when such things weren't high up on the list of features!
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I'm not really convinced by this argument. Simply because it is quite bulky compared to a 66 does not mean it will fare better in a crash. I'd rather be on a Pendolino or a Voyager than a HST with MkIII coaches built ages ago.
 
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I think what was meant was that the 37s have bonnets which are better at absorbing impacts whereas the 66s do not.
 
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Aye. Unless you build massively strong "safety cages" around the cabs that will disspate and transfer the energy from a frontal collision round to the middle, a bonneted loco will always offer better protection as it has that crumple zone. Why do you think modern cars crumple and distort/body panels come off? it is redirecting the energy away from the passenger cabin.
I thought the Mk3s were pretty good in collisions? I've heard that if you remove the emergency windows from coach sides and replace with the same glass that is in the other windows, then it makes the coach incredibly rigid and more likely to stay coach-like in an accident.
 
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HIS INCIDENT HAS BEEN CLEARED
Problem at a level crossing between Stirling and Perth

Last Updated: 18:07
Route Affected: Glasgow Queen Street, Stirling, Perth & Dundee and Aberdeen / Inverness
TOC/s Affected: First ScotRail, National Express East Coast
Description: Services between Stirling and Perth are currently being disrupted due to a problem at a level crossing.

At present, services between Stirling and Perth are being diverted and will not call at Dunblane or Gleneagles. A limited replacement bus service will operate. Trains from Glasgow that terminate at Dunblane will run normally.

It is not known how long this disruption will last.
Updates: 15:18 Services are continuing to be disrupted between Stirling to Perth. The line beyond Dunblane is expected to reopen at 17:00.
16:43 The line between Stirling and Perth has now reopened and trains are able to run normally. Residual delays and cancellations can be expected until 18:00.
Time reported cleared: 18:07
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Trains seem to be running on time again, with a couple of delays which appear to be unrelated or caused by a knock-on effect. (If you know what I mean).
 
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Sir_Clagalot said:
I thought the Mk3s were pretty good in collisions? I've heard that if you remove the emergency windows from coach sides and replace with the same glass that is in the other windows, then it makes the coach incredibly rigid and more likely to stay coach-like in an accident.
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Just might not be able to get out which will be great in a fire... :shock:
 
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But Grayrigg, Potters Bar, Heck, Ufton Nervert, Hatfield were all without fire. Only Southall and Paddington I think have included an actual fire. Thus preserving the 'tibe' integroity of the carriage allows egress through the carriage ends, rather than possibly being able to escape through a window, but due to teh weaker carriage, th 'tube' being deformed. Also, escaping through a window puts you 6ft off th ground and a 50:50 chance of being above running rails. With controlled exit via carriage ends, you can control the flow of passengers for triage and to avoid any dangers trackside.

Also even the 'stronger windows' sometime spop out oif teh carriage is deformed - by sideswiping a bridge etc.
 
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The bonnet on a Tractor isn't there to absorb energy in the case of an accident. It's full of stuff. If it hits something adequately solid, everything in there gets shoved backwards. Eventually something will make contact with the back of the drivers desk which will get pushed backwards and could, if the driver isn't quick, cause injury.

I suspect that the driver, once the driver knew a collision was inevitable, he/she was out of the seat straightaway. It's what I would do.

Incidentally, crashworthiness (at least from the driver's perspective) is not a high priority. You only have to see all these MU's with fibreglass cabs to know this. Indeed, I'm given to understand that the first main bulkhead on a Networker is the back wall of the cab, behind the driver. When we say that we're sitting in the crumple zone, we're not kidding. Therefore, if you're ever on an MU and feel the brakes go into emergency shortly before the driver rushes past you, you would be well advised to follow him/her.

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Rich said:
Not really, looking at it, wouldn't take too much to put some new panels on and fit new windows. Just structural work, so isn't too major - all you need is a welder :p.
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If the Chassis is bent or any other under frame parts are dislodged or damage then it could be quite costly in the end. Just reactivating another 37 maybe cheaper. Although IF DRS have Traction doing nothing and sat in the yard the repair/replacement may not happen and that's a 37 to the history books.
 
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