Travelling on VT peak train with off peak ticket

[Hellfire]

This is a purely hypothetical question as I don't have to buy my own ticket and forgive me if this has been discussed before.

The 1630 VT service from Euston to Glasgow is classed as a peak service for anyone travelling to Preston. According to Trainline a single to Preston on tomorrow's departure would cost £117

However a single to Penrith would only be £97 because the train is not classed as peak for tickets to Penrith.

So, what is to stop someone buying a Penrith ticket and getting off at Preston? The train manager won't notice. But if that person was stopped at Preston by an RPI what is likely to happen.

 

[CyrusWuff]

So, what is to stop someone buying a Penrith ticket and getting off at Preston? The train manager won't notice. But if that person was stopped at Preston by an RPI what is likely to happen.

Virgin are one step ahead of you...The restriction code (5F) explicitly prohibits Break of Journey. As such, I'd expect them to request an excess to the "correct" fare to Preston...

Having said that, "using station facilities" isn't a BoJ.

 

[andythebrave]

The short answer is nothing.

Better would be an off peak single to Lancaster at £87.40.

Break of journey is permitted on either.

Just seen the above, this seems to contradict brfares.com or rather brfares contradicts itself!.But as Cyruswuff says using facilities beyond any barrier is not a BOJ.

 

[CyrusWuff]

Just seen the above, this seems to contradict brfares.com or rather brfares contradicts itself!.But as Cyruswuff says using facilities beyond any barrier is not a BOJ.

BRFares states the same restriction, though it's in the left-hand column after the time restrictions.

 

[andythebrave]

Of course an off peak return from Lancaster to London Terminals at £88.40 has no such restriction on the return journey that I can determine...
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BRFares states the same restriction, though it's in the left-hand column after the time restrictions.

Thanks

 

[LexyBoy]

There are many SVRs with BoJ prohibited on the outward, and in most cases nobody will mind you breaking your journey. On this route however, Virgin guards know this trick very well and are likely to stop you (well, if you're stopped at the barriers).

Blame Virgin's ridiculous peak fares pricing and off peak time restrictions!

Virgin are one step ahead of you...The restriction code (5F) explicitly prohibits Break of Journey. As such, I'd expect them to request an excess to the "correct" fare to Preston...

I think the correct excess would be to a London-Penrith SOS.

 

[Hellfire]

There are many SVRs with BoJ prohibited on the outward, and in most cases nobody will mind you breaking your journey. On this route however, Virgin guards know this trick very well and are likely to stop you (well, if you're stopped at the barriers.

I've been using this train for the last three years( with the correct ticket) and never been stopped when leaving the station. And I use the underpass.

 

[Gareth Marston]

I've been using this train for the last three years( with the correct ticket) and never been stopped when leaving the station. And I use the underpass.

Easy way around would be to buy a local single ticket from somewhere close to Preston valid at that time and produce that if challenged.

Having spent years experiencing or hearing about staff at Euston not realizing that west of Shrewsbury off peaks returns are valid in the evening peak I have little sympathy with Virgins pricing policy and staff training standards. I and a number of people I know keep a copy of the restriction codes with us just in case.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

....I think the correct excess would be to a London-Penrith SOS.

Indeed it would be.