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Signs between Shalford and Reigate

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Railsigns

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These signs have got me stumped:

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They're on the line between Shalford and Reigate, in both directions. Does anyone know what they're for, please?
 
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These signs have got me stumped:

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They're on the line between Shalford and Reigate, in both directions. Does anyone know what they're for, please?
Is that how they appear in order of travel - i.e. are they a count down of some kind?
 

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Is that how they appear in order of travel - i.e. are they a count down of some kind?

They appear in that order, though they can't be countdown markers because of the spacing, which is about a quarter mile between (a) and (b), then several miles between (b) and (c). I think therefore that (a) is a warning board, and (b) and (c) are commencement and termination boards, respectively (in the manner of Sandite 'countdown' boards).
 

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Not weed sprayer or something similar is it?


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The style is like the "Sandite markers" from RBLI (page 28) and Selectequip and possibly others, advance, start, stop
 
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My thoughts too, that it could be a deviation on Sandite marker boards if there is such irregular spacing.

I should add that I've always found your site very good for explaining the mass of the unknown rail signs on the Network. Have you had a chance to include the new FTAP signs on the MML? They only seem to have appeared this week but are markers for the HO ballast trains so the WON says... :)
 
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My thoughts too, that it could be a deviation on Sandite marker boards if there is such irregular spacing.:)

It is possible that they're an early form of Sandite board, from before the standard signs were introduced. Boards (a) and (b) are located on the approach side of a station in every case (I saw four pairs in total). I only saw one example of sign (c). I think I recall seeing standard Sandite markers on this line as well, though.

I should add that I've always found your site very good for explaining the mass of the unknown rail signs on the Network. Have you had a chance to include the new FTAP signs on the MML? They only seem to have appeared this week but are markers for the HO ballast trains so the WON says... :)

Thanks for your comments. I intend to include the new FTAP signs but I'd like to get confirmation of their appearance first. The pictures in the WON are in black and white but I've a suspicion the bars and spot on the signs may be coloured red.
 

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Thanks for your comments. I intend to include the new FTAP signs but I'd like to get confirmation of their appearance first. The pictures in the WON are in black and white but I've a suspicion the bars and spot on the signs may be coloured red.
I haven't actually seen them yet either though was chatting to another driver who said they had appeared on the MML though i'm not sure exactly where. I've not been past St Albans for a few shifts to notice them yet anyway. :lol:
 

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With regards to the NDL signage, I would not be surprised if these were related to water jetting, Sandite applications or perhaps some experimental measure to reduce wheelslip. The line is notorious for exceptionally poor railhead conditions and it is by no means unheard of for units to become stuck for hours on end in winter. Weedkiller trains (crewed by SWT drivers) run regularly, too.

If this is the case, I would expect the signs are perhaps to mark gradients or other areas which are particularly in need of special treatment, perhaps for water jetting at various intensity levels. The force of water blasting the prevalent leaf debris from the rails can be very effective in this area, and it's noticeable when an RHTT hasn't provided this type of assistance.

The MPVs used on RHTT workings in this area are usually equipped with pretty bright headlights, and I should imagine any drivers who were newer to the route could find meaning in the signs - especially the shape - in the hours of darkness, which would often be appropriate. I know this would not be ideal, but it might be more useful than a GPS-based reminder system, especially as A-GPS technologies can be a little sketchy in the area.
 
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With regards to the NDL signage, I would not be surprised if these were related to water jetting, Sandite applications or perhaps some experimental measure to reduce wheelslip. The line is notorious for exceptionally poor railhead conditions and it is by no means unheard of for units to become stuck for hours on end in winter. Weedkiller trains (crewed by SWT drivers) run regularly, too.

If this is the case, I would expect the signs are perhaps to mark gradients or other areas which are particularly in need of special treatment, perhaps for water jetting at various intensity levels.

Certainly, the positioning of these signs on the approaches to stations suggests they may be related to some form of railhead treatment.
 
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