badassunicorn
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=) On a lot of late evening GE services I see people smoking in toilets and on stations, sometimes just in the saloon too!
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stanley T
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Only some companies ban ecigs. From the South Eastern website:
Its not permitted to smoke a lit cigarette on our network, including our trains, ticket halls and platforms.However, customers who wish to use an electronic cigarette, which is neither lit nor discharges actual smoke, are welcome to do so.These e-cigarettes can look like real cigarettes so its expected that customers using them may need to explain this to other passengers or staff members if questioned.
Everybody I know who "vapes" ecigs is like myself - an ex smoker for whom these have been a godsend, finally getting off the death sticks after all other methods have failed. The government is to ban sales to under 18s, which is sensible, and they should ban advertising too. Otherwise regulation should be light, as the vapour is water, odourless and harmless to others, and any risk to health from these things is minute compared to real tobacco. There was pressure in the EU to ban them, fortunately common sense has prevailed.
Armed with South Eastern's response, I would vape on platforms, but in trains could cause too much aggravation. Sensible vapers have ecigs which do no look anything like real cigs, like my rather boxy refillable model - it avoids misunderstandings
Its not permitted to smoke a lit cigarette on our network, including our trains, ticket halls and platforms.However, customers who wish to use an electronic cigarette, which is neither lit nor discharges actual smoke, are welcome to do so.These e-cigarettes can look like real cigarettes so its expected that customers using them may need to explain this to other passengers or staff members if questioned.
Everybody I know who "vapes" ecigs is like myself - an ex smoker for whom these have been a godsend, finally getting off the death sticks after all other methods have failed. The government is to ban sales to under 18s, which is sensible, and they should ban advertising too. Otherwise regulation should be light, as the vapour is water, odourless and harmless to others, and any risk to health from these things is minute compared to real tobacco. There was pressure in the EU to ban them, fortunately common sense has prevailed.
Armed with South Eastern's response, I would vape on platforms, but in trains could cause too much aggravation. Sensible vapers have ecigs which do no look anything like real cigs, like my rather boxy refillable model - it avoids misunderstandings
Nym
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I can safely say that the vapour will be far from harmless...
What does it contain...?
(Open ended question, I know what it contains)
What does it contain...?
(Open ended question, I know what it contains)
As a non smoker I can only agree with you on both points!
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stanley T
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What is breathed in by the vaper is propylene glycol or glycerine (safe food additives), tobacco flavourings and nicotine.
What is breathed out is - water. You are probably waiting for - nicotine. That is absorbed in the mouth of the vaper. Perhaps an infinitestimal amount escapes - nobody even next to the person would absorb any.
I mean water can be dangerous, I know, fall into a flooded river etc.
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Nym
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So you're saying that those who stylishly smoke them and blow out vapour that they havn't even dragged back doesn't contain any nicotine?
I gave up smoking in 1999 with the help of nicotine inhalators. Having had about 250,000 cigarettes by then, I felt enough was enough. I found the inhalators to be a great help - I treated them like cigarettes, getting my fix after I got up in the morning etc, and I found that on average I could make do with an average of two a day, sucking each one on and off over a period of hours, anywhere I liked - in pubs, at work, at home etc.
Atefter a very short while I loathed thethought of ever smoking a cigarette again, but like cigarettes before them I found it incredibly hard to give the inhalators up altogether, and in fact it was only two or three years ago that I finally managed to kick the nicotine addiction once and for all, this being when they increased the amount of nicotine in the capsules from, I think, 20mg to 25mg.
The way I saw it was that I got my nicotine fix but without the tar and other carcinogens associated with tobacco smoke.
I never think about them now other than when they advertise the nicotine spray etc on TV which I find produces a slight craving for a couple of minutes.
So, what is it about the e-cigarettes that makes them different to the inhalator? Do they contain less nicotine than the inhalators? The inhalators don't look anything like a cigarette, and don't smell, so if you have the odd suck on a train or plane nobody is going to complain.
Atefter a very short while I loathed thethought of ever smoking a cigarette again, but like cigarettes before them I found it incredibly hard to give the inhalators up altogether, and in fact it was only two or three years ago that I finally managed to kick the nicotine addiction once and for all, this being when they increased the amount of nicotine in the capsules from, I think, 20mg to 25mg.
The way I saw it was that I got my nicotine fix but without the tar and other carcinogens associated with tobacco smoke.
I never think about them now other than when they advertise the nicotine spray etc on TV which I find produces a slight craving for a couple of minutes.
So, what is it about the e-cigarettes that makes them different to the inhalator? Do they contain less nicotine than the inhalators? The inhalators don't look anything like a cigarette, and don't smell, so if you have the odd suck on a train or plane nobody is going to complain.
Nym
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Very much so, I still catch myself smoking my pen at work, generally moreso when theres more stress about or if I'm stuck in the office (that I detest!)
When Im on site in the lab or under a train I tend to have something to keep my hands busy.
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Butts
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Seriously there is no substitute for "the real thing", however I admire people able to utilise these "sonic screwdrivers" to kick the habit.
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