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Good chance all the places on the January course were filled with internal candidates, usually they get preference I think.

More than likely the case. I've been on hold for MDD at Newcastle for a while and was contacted early last week to ask if I'd be available to start training at Leeds on 27th however they couldn't offer me a job as internal candidates would get priority. They were having psychometrics Thursday and Friday so hopefully I'll find out if I've been lucky next week!
Good job I just need to give one weeks notice!
 
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Internals don't get preference on a training course. The powers that be in HR who allocate candidates to slots have no feelings of loyalty or allegiance to other staff. Afterall, pushing through existing staff would mean that their current role would need filling quicker - so there's no logic to it really.
 

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I have known cases when Internals have had priorty for roles in Northern and the externals got a rejection letter saying it was "Due to a change in Business requirements"
 

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Having waited as an internal a long time for a drivers course watching endless externals go ahead of me I can assure you that internals get no priority at all!
 

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Having waited as an internal a long time for a drivers course watching endless externals go ahead of me I can assure you that internals get no priority at all!


Depends how much your current line manager wants to keep you (or not!)


I wasn't ever waiting long in the internal movements I have made :lol: I think its an easy company to move around in.
 
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My understanding is that if an Internal/External pass to same standard, internal gets priority due to a Union agreement. This new test procedure is just a pass/fail whereas the previous tests had low/high passes. This would explain an external going ahead of an internal.
 

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Found out today that I've passed my Stage 2 assessments for the Man Vic vacancies advertised late November. Chuffed to bits to clear that hurdle :)
 

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For the benefit of those that haven't done the stage 2 yet could you enlighten us as to what it entails?

Asking for a friend that is due the stage 2.
 

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This replaces the reaction test you would have done. You stare at a white screen which has a small flashing grey square in it. You have to hammer the 'Green' button as quickly as you can on your keyboard everytime the square changes to 'Black.' (This occurs about once every 1.5 minutes) This test is 30 minutes in length with no pause.)

ATAVT

In this test, pictures flash up on the screen for a maximum of 2 seconds. When the picture disappears, you have to select whether you saw pedestrians, motor vehicles, bikes, road signs or traffic lights. There may be one or more of them in each picture. You select as many as you recall seeing using numbered keys on the keyboard. There are about 27 pictures in all.

Two-Hand Coordination Test

In this test, you use two joysticks, one controlling left and right movement and the other controlling up and down movement, to guide a red dot around a very small and tight track. The joysticks are VERY sensitive. If you go out the track even partially, you will hear a buzzer, and you will be negatively marked. You have to return the ball to the track as quickly as possible. You have to guide the ball around the same track about 17 times.


If you pass the above assessments, you will then do:

Situational Judgement Exercise

You will be presented with about 28 scenarios and actions. On a scale ranging from 'Very Helpful' to 'Very Unhelpful,' you have to determine your preference for the actions listed. On its own, there are no wrong answers in this test, but it will be used to determine your character when combined with your performance in the Multi-Modal Interview.

Multi-Modal Interview

This is an interview in which you will be asked about six situations you have been in, and how they are relevant to the Train Driver role. You will fill in a 'Pre-Interview Form' (at the start of Stage 2) and you will be asked deep, and probing questions about all of your listed examples. (You will be found out if you lie, trust me.) These examples are based around following procedures, emergencies, roles you do that are similar etc.
You will also be asked several hypothetical questions at times, linking with the answers you have already provided.

As some people have stated, the interview is deep, and very strictly controlled, but not a grilling. If you provide answers that the interviewer feels won't score highly, you may be asked for another. You may also change your listed examples if you suddenly remember a better one. Hope all this helps your friend
 

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Pretty much as above but worth saying that during ATAVT, the pictures you see are never on screen for anywhere near 2 seconds. I would even doubt if they are on for a full second. It's quick but not a difficult test IMO.
 

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Anyone sit the assessments in Manchester today?
How did you get on?
 
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Hi guys, new to the site and found this thread interesting. With regards the Victoria driver vacancies, I applied November and was contacted and asked if I would consider attending the leeds course to begin January. I politely declined the offer as I would much prefer to attend the Bolton based course in February. Now my question. Has anyone here had any correspondence back from recruitment regarding interviews/assessment dates as I have had nothing back from them at this late stage.
Cheers.
 

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Hi guys, new to the site and found this thread interesting. With regards the Victoria driver vacancies, I applied November and was contacted and asked if I would consider attending the leeds course to begin January. I politely declined the offer as I would much prefer to attend the Bolton based course in February. Now my question. Has anyone here had any correspondence back from recruitment regarding interviews/assessment dates as I have had nothing back from them at this late stage.
Cheers.

So you was offered a place on the Leeds course but you haven't yet heard if you have passed your assessments?
 

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My application was for vic with a course start date in February. recruitment asked me if I would consider (if selected) commuting to leeds as they had a course starting in January. My current position is a depot driver/instructor 14 years but feel as time is gradually getting close to February and ive not even had an invite for a interview ive possibly been "binned".
 

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My application was for vic with a course start date in February. recruitment asked me if I would consider (if selected) commuting to leeds as they had a course starting in January. My current position is a depot driver/instructor 14 years but feel as time is gradually getting close to February and ive not even had an invite for a interview ive possibly been "binned".

Ah right I see, so you haven't as yet been interviewed for this position. Would you, given your current job, be required to sit the assessments?
I'm currently awaiting a course date from HR and it's clear now that the January course in Leeds has been scrapped.
I would suggest you contact HR directly yourself.

Nice Gixer btw :)
 

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Yeah think you maybe right regards leeds. Was talki g to one of the bolton trainers mon and was told there were 5 places still empty. Will bell recruitment this afternoon after work. Cheers.
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Well finally the email arrived. I have my interview next Tuesday for the February course. Looks like I better start reading up on my employer.
 

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So the first interview before assessments is this example based with the emergency question?
Thanks folks!
 

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Yeah think you maybe right regards leeds. Was talki g to one of the bolton trainers mon and was told there were 5 places still empty. Will bell recruitment this afternoon after work. Cheers.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Well finally the email arrived. I have my interview next Tuesday for the February course. Looks like I better start reading up on my employer.

Good luck, may be seeing you in Bolton next month.
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So the first interview before assessments is this example based with the emergency question?
Thanks folks!

The first interview is the DM interview which just so happens to be example based, it may or may not ask about an emergency situation.
Don't confuse this interview with the MMI that is sat as a part of the Stage 2 Assessment.
 

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Why did they advertise for Manchester drivers " weeks ago if the previous posts havnt yet been filled????
 

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Cheers Sunday-mornin. If not, chances are I will bump into you up at the depot when you do your traction based stuff. Coupling-uncoupling slow speed driving etc.
Failing all that southport on the bike when the weather picks up.
 

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I applied for this in December, did the tests after the new year and only got the call this week saying I was on it.

Just to be clear ,you applied for the Manchester job not the Leeds? I'm just trying to figure it out and wondering if maybe their needing drivers more in Manchester than Leeds right now since there sending trainees on a training course in Leeds who are going to fill Manchester vacancies
 

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There are at least 5 for Leeds on the course starting Tuesday for depot induction. 3 guards and 2 depot drivers I know for sure. Could be another for Leeds but I'm not sure.
 

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Cheers Sunday-mornin. If not, chances are I will bump into you up at the depot when you do your traction based stuff. Coupling-uncoupling slow speed driving etc.
Failing all that southport on the bike when the weather picks up.

Haha, I'll keep my eyes peeled for a Rizla paint job near the carousel.
 
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