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Why don't people carry cash?

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The downside of course is its way too easy to spend on a card.
Maybe.
But it's very easy to 'overspend' with cash - and to loose the stuff. Some personal examples:
Once I let a £20 note fall out a back pocket when removing a ticket from the same pocket at a bus stop. (The note was still on the pavement when I went back to look for it 30 mins later!).
Last week I left a £5 note in a self-serve payment machine in a supermarket after paying with a £20 note for a total charge of around £12.
Last year, a railway CSO spotted a £5 note falling out of my pocket, (and told me!).

(and I'm overlooking the incidents a long time ago, once when I was assaulted and had cash taken fro me and another when cleverly pick-pocketed)
Cash has its risks too!
 
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I don't tend to carry cash.

Sometimes it's useful - giving my kids money, buying veg in the market, that's about it.

I bought a new wallet which keeps my cash a little more securely but I'm sure a substantial proportion of my change tends to go astray.

Card payments are the best by far, I have a decade's worth of card payments logged and categorised (Sainsburys gets auto-allocated to 'groceries' for example) on my PC, but I certainly don't keep track of where each penny of cash goes.
 

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I dont need cash as I have vouchers to pay for my daily paper and annual travel pass to get to work.

Plus I am a bit of a tightwad, as I have just finished paying off £24k worth of debt, and have got used to having reduced funds available, and I dont want to get back into debt !.
 

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Paying all purchases with card is fair enough, but not having direct access to any emergency funds (ie. in your wallet) is plain stupidity imo.

Before anyone says it, there may not be a cashpoint nearby where you can conveniently get access to the so-called emergency cash as the banks put it.

Paying for certain items with cash could be described as "stupidity" as using a card leaves you with some form of protection, even a debit card.

As the contactless system becomes more prevalent I find it speeds up the payment process even over cash.
 

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:shock: Fiver for a poppy!?

I don't think £5 is too much to give to support someone who has made a sacrifice for the rest of us. Don't forget, you're not really "buying" a poppy, you're making a charity donation. The poppy is a "by-product" of that.
 

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Totally agreed there, except I haven't got kids!

Just as well, as I'm not sure what they'd do with postal orders, rail vouchers and travellers cheques - or telling them to ask for a notice to pay later. :D
 

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I don't think £5 is too much to give to support someone who has made a sacrifice for the rest of us. Don't forget, you're not really "buying" a poppy, you're making a charity donation. The poppy is a "by-product" of that.

I give money, but don't take a poppy.

That always confuses people... :lol:
 

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I always take the poppy and don't give any money so it balances out.

(Joke!)
 

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DaveNewcastle: Do you just keep your cash just loose in your pocket? It seems unlikely to me that notes can just fall out of your pocket with such regularity!
 

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I try to pay using cash as much as possible. I will use a card to buy items over £100 but rarely less than that (except online, of course). This is not a hard and fast rule - I have bought two first class 7-day ALRs this year, both with cash. I cannot recall buying anything in a bricks and mortar store with a credit card this year
 

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I put 1p on a card recently in Tesco, after feeding a load of loose change to the till and being a penny short.
 

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I always carry a small amount of notes and coins in my wallet but the majority of my transactions are made on card, because I get reward points or cashback, so it works out cheaper than paying with cash.

I dont need cash as I have vouchers to pay for my daily paper and annual travel pass to get to work.

Plus I am a bit of a tightwad, as I have just finished paying off £24k worth of debt, and have got used to having reduced funds available, and I dont want to get back into debt !.

There seems to be A bit of a 'thing' with young people (by which I mean those younger than me, so those in their 20s/30s) paying everything on cards.

Can I remind everyone that it is very possible to fall into a hole with credit cards/debts.
 

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Indeed. But if you pay off your bill in full every month, there's nothing lost
 

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I only use a debit card unless it's a very large purchase or something I'd like to have a bit of extra cover on.
 

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Can I remind everyone that it is very possible to fall into a hole with credit cards/debts.

True but if you get something like a World Mastercard and pay off in full every month than you can profit from having a credit card.
 

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What I don't like with cards is when you make a payment over the weekend or even sometimes during the week it disappears into that black whole between cleared funds and current balance for a few days. Now if you check you balance at some cash points they will show you current cleared funds, at others just the balance. I like being able to look in my wallet and no instantly how much I haven't got.
 

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That is a bit of a problem, I admit. However online and mobile banking has gotten better recently, and more banks are making it clearer if you have any pending transactions. It still requires some organisation and discipline though.
 

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That is a bit of a problem, I admit. However online and mobile banking has gotten better recently, and more banks are making it clearer if you have any pending transactions. It still requires some organisation and discipline though.

Ha ha, thats where it all falls down for me. :lol:
 

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I always carry a small amount of notes and coins in my wallet but the majority of my transactions are made on card, because I get reward points or cashback, so it works out cheaper than paying with cash.

I'm in this boat too. Cash transactions for me tend to be only things below £5 or so (and even then I will do many of those on cards) or the dwindling number of merchants, such as taxi drivers, who don't accept anything else.
 

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There seems to be A bit of a 'thing' with young people (by which I mean those younger than me, so those in their 20s/30s) paying everything on cards.

Can I remind everyone that it is very possible to fall into a hole with credit cards/debts.

Well TBH you can do that with cash too. If you spend cash that is needed for rent/mortgage/gas bill then you will still get into trouble.

Advantages of credit cards:

* slight 'carry' on the up to 50 days interest-free you get (date of purchase to credit card bill being due the following month) - rather negligible at this point due to criminally low interest rates
* much less likely to suffer financial loss compared with cash as consequence of theft/losing wallet
* build credit rating if you use them, which improves your chances of getting a mortgage etc.
* if you pay off your balance each month they will give you a bigger limit, which is useful if you need to make more/bigger purchases
* cheap form of lending - under 8% interest on best cards and there's no further credit check beyond the initial application - much cheaper than overdraft and the limit tends to be much higher, and far cheaper than payday loans
* you don't need to pay off the debt immediately, minimum payment is typically 1%, so you can pay off the whole debt, or almost nothing - so it's far more flexible than a personal loan where there is a fixed monthly payment
* they give you free stuff, e.g., free flights, cashback (I get 1.25% on every penny I spend)
* protection against bankrupt retailers - just reclaim from credit card company
* protection against scammers and fraud - as above
* you can setup a standing order to pay them off in full each month
* you have a full record of all your transactions (typically available online + paper), which you won't get with cash.

The disadvantages:

* some places don't accept them
* their flexibility means that you can behave like a 3 year old child and spend money that you don't have and can't possibly pay back.

There is no reason to be frightened of credit cards, they are absolutely fantastic.

When I was living overseas I got into some debt, when I returned I put the money onto zero/low-interest credit cards and paid it off on my own schedule. This was much cheaper and more flexible than taking out a loan.

With the exception of a house IMO borrowing money to buy things is a bad idea, but spending £2k in December on a £1500 income isn't really a problem PROVIDING you are willing and understanding that you will only have £1300 to spend in January, February, etc. until it is paid off, and a credit card is a really good way to do that.

If your credit card balance NEVER reaches zero then that's a problem, but the responsible use of credit cards to balance your spending requirements is MUCH better than most of the alternatives.

Of course you can tell people that they should always save first, spend later, but that's not always the best approach. Example: you are going on holiday next July, the flights are on sale now for £400 per person, the usual price is £700, if you buy NOW on your credit card you are going to pay £1600, whereas if you save up till next July you will pay £2800. If you pay the debt off between now and July the interest might be around £100, still far cheaper than paying the usual flights. Provided you remember that you are going to have to spend less tomorrow in return for your spending today, it's not a problem.
 
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The disadvantages:

* some places don't accept them
* their flexibility means that you can behave like a 3 year old child and spend money that you don't have and can't possibly pay back.

You forgot to mention the 1% surcharge some places have for using credit cards, but not for debit cards. ;)

My only use for cash is in taxis, where I will give the driver a £5 tip (no tip if they are rude, ask me for directions, or driving a Skoda Craptavia). :)
 

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Cards mean airmiles

After many years of paying for long haul flights on mileage cards, specifically the BA Amex Premium Plus, I have more airmiles than I can reasonably spend anytime soon.

Accordingly I switched my regular payments to an Amex cash back card that pays me 0.5% for the first GBP 3,500 spent per year, 1% for amounts between GBP 3,501 and GBP 10,000 and 1.5% for any more spend.

For GBP 15k annual spend (easy to rack up when you put business expenses through) I get back GBP 157.50 in cash, tax free and to spend on a special treat! :)

Why would you not pay on card? They give back free money or miles for 'free' first and business class flights! :D

However you need to be sure not to pay anything extra e.g. an Amex or general credit card surcharge otherwise it is not worth it. I carry an emergency Visa for when Amex is not accepted.

I wish Amex would release an East Coast rewards card! :D

:shock: Fiver for a poppy!?

I have known people overseas, normally ex-service, stick the equivalent of a hundred pounds or more in the tin!

I put a tenner in plus some miscellaneous coins this year.
 

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I always carry a small amount of change and maybe a tenner. Otherwise it's all card.
 

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DaveNewcastle: Do you just keep your cash just loose in your pocket? It seems unlikely to me that notes can just fall out of your pocket with such regularity!

It can:(

Anyone I pay tends to get the notes bent in half (or even more crumpled) but I seldom use a credit or debit card unless it is online.
I also keep money in different pockets to pander to my phobia of having my pockets picked
 

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It can:(

Anyone I pay tends to get the notes bent in half (or even more crumpled) but I seldom use a credit or debit card unless it is online.
I also keep money in different pockets to pander to my phobia of having my pockets picked

Hope this doesn't sound like advertising as I don't work for the company but I have 2 pairs of Cragghoppers walking trousers for my travels when you really don't want to loose anything, they had hidden pockets all over including zip up ones behind the hip pockets and behind the leg pockets. Much nicer to walk around in hot weather than jeans and one pair had zip off legs.

Anyway, I still don't like the way that when you pay by card in various places it doesn't update your account instantly depending on how you are checking your balance. Electronic cash usage is getting better though and I'll possibly use it more in future. Still don't like the idea of having lost all my money access by loosing one card, especially when travelling.
 
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