Liverpool street and stratford

[thomasgholmes]

So i know london ls only con trols up to bow elec and hackney downs.
So where is the stratford to shenfeild line controled from?

 

[Daniel]

SimSig Liv St is wrong...

Great Eastern passes onto Ingatestone for for the LC's only, then goes on to somewhere else....

Not sure about the West Anglian.

 

[thomasgholmes]

Oh.
I thought it was weird.
And i really wanted to get stratford as i live near.

 

[Nick W]

I always thought Liverpool Street controlled up to Chitts hill between Marks Tey and Colchester.

 

[Tom]

On the Anglia route ...

London Liverpool Street (0m0ch) to Chitts Hill LC (49m 41ch) (Liverpool Street (L))
Chitts Hill LC (49m 41ch) to Norwich (124m 09ch) (Colchester (CO))

Following branches also controlled by the bouncy castle ...
Romford - Upminster
Shenfield - Southend / Southminster
Witham - Braintree
Marks Tey - Sudbury

Further down the line...
Colchester controls Clacton / Walton as far as roughly 52m 28ch (just beyond the flyunder)
East Gate Jn (EG) controls 52m 28ch to 53m 55ch plus Colchester Town. Beyond 53m 55ch on the down line, control passes to Thorpe-le-Soken (T) - on the up line control passes at 63m 35ch.
Thorpe-le-Soken box covers what I've mentioned above plus the Clacton line to 65m 24ch (Clacton box covers Clacton station (C)). T controls Walton on Naze line.
Colchester controls all junctions around Manningtree - control passes to Parkestone box (P) for the rest of the line at 59m 74ch.

That's Anglia, anyway...

 

[Daniel]

Im not 100% sure... I have been inside Ingatestone box before and was told that it was where Liverpool Street lost control, and passes onto the next centre, and that the box was only there for the two Level Crossings as it was too far away for CCTV to be sent to either of the centres.


EDIT: Just go with what Tom says

 

[Tom]

Ingatestone is a gate box, not a block post.

 

[Bonemaster]

On the West Anglia route Liverpool Street now controls all the way to the boundry with Cambridge Box just north of Standsted North Junction

 

[thomasgholmes]

Thanks all for the help.

 

[GeoffM]

SimSig Liv St is wrong...

In what way? SimSig Liverpool Street controls exactly the same area as Liverpool Street IECC, Liverpool St workstation - which itself is duplicated and controlled by two signallers mostly. One does the top half of the station, the suburban lines, and the Hackney Downs lines; the other does the rest of the station, the main, and the electric lines.

Stratford workstation is next, followed by Ilford workstation, then Shenfield (which also covers Southend Vic), and finally Ingatestone workstation.

Liv St also control the North London Line, formerly to North Woolwich, but also Channelsea Jns, Temple Mills yard, etc.

Geoff M.

 

[Daniel]

By "SimSig Liv St is wrong", I mean that it is not entirely realistic - in that in real life LST IECC controls far more than on SimSig.
The idea of it being one workstation may be correct, but it should not be assumed that Bow Junction etc is where the IECC looses control.

 

[thomasgholmes]

Yes there is no north london line of ls simg sig.

 

[GeoffM]

By "SimSig Liv St is wrong", I mean that it is not entirely realistic - in that in real life LST IECC controls far more than on SimSig.
The idea of it being one workstation may be correct, but it should not be assumed that Bow Junction etc is where the IECC looses control.

Nowhere does it state that this is a simulation of the entire IECC. In fact far from it: "This simulation is a replica of the screens in use by the signallers at Liverpool Street IECC, covering the same area as the signaller controlling Liverpool Street" (http://www.simsig.co.uk/html/liverpool_st.html)

Yes there is no north london line of ls simg sig.

No idea what you're on about. There is a SimSig North London Line, which is a replica of a whole bunch of boxes.

Geoff M.

 

[Juniper Driver]

I remember Ingatestone loop when I was on the liverpool St side.We were doing something with Locos and coaches and got put into the loop so the Norwich could pass by.:?

 

[Daniel]

Nowhere does it state that this is a simulation of the entire IECC. In fact far from it: "This simulation is a replica of the screens in use by the signallers at Liverpool Street IECC, covering the same area as the signaller controlling Liverpool Street" (http://www.simsig.co.uk/html/liverpool_st.html)

Sorry, but I had structured my response in a way which explained to thomasgholmes that the Liverpool Street SimSig didn't show what the entire IECC controlled.

So i know london ls only con trols up to bow elec and hackney downs.
So where is the stratford to shenfeild line controled from?

 

[thomasgholmes]

Yes and someone told me ls controlled north london line?

 

[Tom]

Very little ... the NLL is controlled by a variety of boxes.

 

[GeoffM]

Very little ... the NLL is controlled by a variety of boxes.

Ah, now I understand! Liverpool Street has a Westcad controlling a small part of the NLL, from North Woolwich to Stratford Low Level (the former now closed), Stratford LL via Channelsea Jns to Homerton, and Channelsea to Temple Mills. The signals controlled by this workstation are plated "S". The rest of LS all IECC equipment rather than Westcad.

Travelling by train from Stratford to Richmond involves eight signalboxes. Gospel Oak to Barking involves six signalboxes, ranging in style from lever frame semaphores to modern computer-based interlockings (SSI).

Geoff M.

 

[thomasgholmes]

Thanks for the information mate.