Class 350

[87016]

Hi all,

new to this forum lark. I'm into Class 350 units, do them for haulage and mileage etc. After info regarding 350103, anyone know when she will be back in service when TP have finished with their familiarisation. Cheers.

 

[Techniquest]

350252 has been the one with TPX, last I saw 350103 was ages ago with severe window damage and parked up on depot at Northampton

 

[DarloRich]

I think this was the unit i saw in Kilmarnock recently.

 

[sprinterguy]

I think this was the unit i saw in Kilmarnock recently.

It will have been, 350103 was moved up there in July for repairs to the aforementioned de-wirement damage.

 

[87016]

Thanks for the info, had forgotten about 350252 on driver training runs.
There's a picture of one of the driving ends of 350103 on the back of a lorry heading up the M6 taken in July. I was told it was heading to Shields Rd, must have been given some dud gen.

 

[zn1]

all the way to shields depot in Glasgow to do this repair and yet wolverton is only a 30 min drive away - well thats what i call an economic repair...

 

[swt_passenger]

all the way to shields depot in Glasgow to do this repair and yet wolverton is only a 30 min drive away - well thats what i call an economic repair...

Depends exactly who/where has the appropriate repair equipment and/or skills. A number of SWT's damaged Desiro units have generally been repaired up there as well.

 

[387star]

do the 350s/360s have guard offices like on SWT?

 

[DarloRich]

all the way to shields depot in Glasgow to do this repair and yet wolverton is only a 30 min drive away - well thats what i call an economic repair...

and have you considered that the cost of shipping it to Kilmarnock ( not Shields) is still less than having Wolverton do the work? Or that Wolverton may not have had the required skills or workshop space to do the work. Didn't think so.

 

[YorkshireBear]

and have you considered that the cost of shipping it to Kilmarnock ( not Shields) is still less than having Wolverton do the work? Or that Wolverton may not have had the required skills or workshop space to do the work. Didn't think so.

I believe they had a rammed order book didn't they? (agreeing with you)

 

[Eagle]

The cost of sending a train anywhere in the country is minuscule. Whoever owned the loco will pay track access plus fuel/electricity charges plus a day's wages for staff, can't see that being much more than a few thousand pounds, and what they bill the TOC won't be very much more.

 

[cj_1985]

Its been the norm for many years.. atleast the last 10 years iirc for units to move up to Kilmarnock for collision repairs. They used to be (may still be) specialists at that sort of work...

 

[MCR247]

do the 350s/360s have guard offices like on SWT?

350s do, I image the 360s don't

 

[DarloRich]

The cost of sending a train anywhere in the country is minuscule. Whoever owned the loco will pay track access plus fuel/electricity charges plus a day's wages for staff, can't see that being much more than a few thousand pounds, and what they bill the TOC won't be very much more.

it is actually cheaper (often) to send it by lorry!

 

[Eagle]

it is actually cheaper (often) to send it by lorry!

Indeed. But either way, transportation costs much less than repairs (in terms o both money and time).

 

[Pumbaa]

350s do, I image the 360s don't

Adding - only 350/1s. And they're locked out of use.

 

[cj_1985]

Adding - only 350/1s. And they're locked out of use.

In that case I wouldn't be surprised if they are removed at the first/next proper (major) refurbishment... can't see the TOC or DfT wanting wasted space where seats could be fitted

 

[DarloRich]

In that case I wouldn't be surprised if they are removed at the first/next proper (major) refurbishment... can't see the TOC or DfT wanting wasted space where seats could be fitted

exactly - you could fit another bay of 4 seats into that space

 

[Kristofferson]

Where is the locked guard's office on 350/1s? I travelled on them regularly and never noticed.

 

[sd0733]

Its the frosted glass cupboard next to first class. It was never actually fitted out as a guards office even on the 350/1s, it was a trolley storage area.

 

[anthony263]

The 1st of TPE's class 350/4's is on the way tonight/tommorow morning.
GBRF class 92 hauling it to crewe.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O35953/2013/11/07/advanced

 

[Bayum]

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Not my video

Why are the 350/4s being introduced in their base livery? Is it easier for FTPE to apply the liveries over here?

 

[Eagle]

Presumably so.