Example of prosecutions (from local media, Cornwall)

[DaveNewcastle]

My answer would be this:

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Fine defaulters and other low level criminals should be sentenced to time on a Scottish Island.

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Start off with Inchgarvie. No need for the helicopters, the inmates can be observed from the Forth Bridge.

 

[neilmc]

... and when a TOC has maliciously attempted to prosecute a passenger for taking a journey allowed by the routing guide but which the company don't happen to like, maybe their senior managers should all be sent to said prison for, say, twenty years, the TOC lose their franchise and have all their assets seized by the state.

That'd teach them.

 

[bb21]

My answer would be this: Many Scottish Islands once supported a much larger population (you can see where I'm going with this.....)

I have a much simpler solution, but am concerned that I will be shot down for suggesting it.

... and when a TOC has maliciously attempted to prosecute a passenger for taking a journey allowed by the routing guide but which the company don't happen to like, maybe their senior managers should all be sent to said prison for, say, twenty years, the TOC lose their franchise and have all their assets seized by the state.

I like this suggestion. Stripping them of the franchise is the only measure required I reckon.

 

[Birdbrain]

Good to see this happening in Cornwall. I often think how many people actually paid when making local journeys on a HST in Cornwall.

 

[richw]

Good to see this happening in Cornwall. I often think how many people actually paid when making local journeys on a HST in Cornwall.

I've never not been sold a ticket making a local journey on an HST. The branch lines on the other hand, I'd say 75% of journeys are free between intermediate stations.

Penryn - Penmere I'd say 90% probably get a free ride, as if you stand at Penryn and watch the majority of passengers board at the front knowing the guard is at the back. There is no way guard can get round in the 5 minutes between the two stations.

 

[AntoniC]

This from my part of the world in Merseyside

Mr C fined for not paying rail fare

Mr C
SOUTHPORT

Age: 36

Travelled on a railway, namely MERSEYRAIL , without having previously paid your fare of £1.60 and with intent to avoid payment thereof

Fined £200.00.

To pay compensation of £1.60.
To pay victim surcharge of £20.00.
To pay costs of £150.00.


http://www.southport.gb.com/southpo...e_fined_for_not_paying_rail_fare-52614145.htm

So thats £351.60 for a £1.60 trainfare or 219.75 times the cost of the fare.

 

[Cliveblackpool]

This from my part of the world in Merseyside
Mr C fined for not paying rail fare
Mr C SOUTHPORT Age: 36
Travelled on a railway, namely MERSEYRAIL , without having previously paid your fare of £1.60 and with intent to avoid payment thereof
Fined £200.00.
To pay compensation of £1.60.
To pay victim surcharge of £20.00.
To pay costs of £150.00.
http://www.southport.gb.com/southpo...e_fined_for_not_paying_rail_fare-52614145.htm

So thats £351.60 for a £1.60 trainfare or 219.75 times the cost of the fare.

More reading on this very unsavory character here...
During the past year Colebourne has become a nuisance on the railway and has received no fewer than 21 convictions for offences on the rail network since January 2012. - See more at: http://www.noodls.com/view/F085DE3E08D0D1A65FCF6E32969C66F036CFC54F#sthash.7FT6cb9V.dpuf
Also (part same info, plus image) Southport Champion - http://www.champnews.com/papers/pdf/S3913.pdf

 

[bnm]

More reading on this very unsavory character here...
During the past year Colebourne has become a nuisance on the railway and has received no fewer than 21 convictions for offences on the rail network since January 2012. - See more at: http://www.noodls.com/view/F085DE3E08D0D1A65FCF6E32969C66F036CFC54F#sthash.7FT6cb9V.dpuf
Also (part same info, plus image) Southport Champion - http://www.champnews.com/papers/pdf/S3913.pdf

I love the name of the BTP officer quoted in the articles.... Sgt Lawman!

 

[Winterbournecm]

On behalf of my FGW Train Manager colleagues on HSTs, the selective door controls for each station differ greatly, and it is difficult for them to patrol a stopping train for revenue & complete the doors between stops. Truro - St Austell and maybe Liskeard - Plymouth are possible, but very little other opportunity exists. Quite a number of HSTs call at St Germans & Saltash too.

The good news is though, more ATE's are being recruited for Devon & Cornwall. The current Ticket team are VERY high profile and work extremely effectively on Cornish services. I've seen many a scrote squirm in the Camborne / Redruth area clearly trying to avoid buying a ticket.

 

[CC 72100]

The good news is though, more ATE's are being recruited for Devon & Cornwall. .

Good news indeed! A pretty penny could have been earnt on a few summer Saturdays last year, especially on those which stop at all stations.

 

[RPI]

12 extra ATE'S and 3 extra RPI'S for Plymouth and Cornwall alone

 

[CC 72100]

12 extra ATE'S and 3 extra RPI'S for Plymouth and Cornwall alone

Fair play, that is going for it! What about Exeter area? I'm sure a fair few local trains with 153 + 143 could do with an extra pair of hands.

 

[broadgage]

Although the fines seem reasonable to me, remembering that the offence was neither trivial, nor as bad as say robbery with violence, but does anyone know how the magistrates determine the fine ?

One was fined £400 and the other one £500, anyone know why one fine was bigger ?

 

[TEW]

Fines will generally be calculated based on your weekly income. The higher your income, the higher the fine. The fine will also depend on the relative seriousness of the offence, any aggravating or mitigating factors.