• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

The Railway: First Great Western on Channel 5

Status
Not open for further replies.

reb0118

Established Member
Fares Advisor
Joined
28 Jan 2010
Messages
3,583
Location
Bo'ness, West Lothian
How many people still 'fall' for the hi-vis jacket of a PCSO that looks like that of a real police officer?

I am sure it's good to convince (con?) law abiding people that there's more visible policing, but I'm less sure that the criminals and lowlifes are fooled - or are particularly scared.


I have to agree with that. Even in my role as a guard I notice certain people moderate their behaviour (conversely not when they are doing anything anti social or even remotely illegal) when I enter the carriage. Others (chavs/jaikes), however, have to be told off.

Now a point about PCSOs is that although they have the same powers as a citizen (with some additional powers depending on force area) IMO they will be more used to using them and more importantly have the backing of their employers. Unlike a rail employee or passenger.
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

Flamingo

Established Member
Joined
26 Apr 2010
Messages
6,806
Now a point about PCSOs is that although they have the same powers as a citizen (with some additional powers depending on force area) IMO they will be more used to using them and more importantly have the backing of their employers. Unlike a rail employee or passenger.
Agreed.
 

Stigy

Established Member
Joined
6 Nov 2009
Messages
4,969
How many people still 'fall' for the hi-vis jacket of a PCSO that looks like that of a real police officer?

I am sure it's good to convince (con?) law abiding people that there's more visible policing, but I'm less sure that the criminals and lowlifes are fooled - or are particularly scared.
A lot of the low-life haven't that much of a clue. Again, speaking from experience, I'm sometimes addressed as a Police Officer, and have to point out that I'm not. To me, it's obvious that my uniform is different from a Police Officer's in that it clearly has a company name on it, and a job title above it. Also there's no black chequered hat band or black epaulettes. I think people just see the hi-vis and assume things before looking further in to it. It's not the same all the time, but I'm surprised at just how many people are like this.
 

cslusarc

Member
Joined
27 Jan 2011
Messages
167
I've never been on a FGW operated HST service. How many customer facing railway staff [this excludes the driver] are typically on-board FGW's Intercity services?
 

Flamingo

Established Member
Joined
26 Apr 2010
Messages
6,806
I've never been on a FGW operated HST service. How many customer facing railway staff [this excludes the driver] are typically on-board FGW's Intercity services?

Minimum is 1, train manager. Most of the time, there will be a buffet customer host, but not always. Weekdays there should be a First Class CH, up to 2000 anyway. If a travelling chef is on the service, there may be another CH, or Service Leader. Pullman services, I've no idea, seems to be dozens of them when they land into Pad messroom!
 

Antman

Established Member
Joined
3 May 2013
Messages
6,840
How many people still 'fall' for the hi-vis jacket of a PCSO that looks like that of a real police officer?

I am sure it's good to convince (con?) law abiding people that there's more visible policing, but I'm less sure that the criminals and lowlifes are fooled - or are particularly scared.


I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

The incident at Windsor where there were numerous RPI's and PCSO's yet they had to call Thames Valley police to remove the kids who were making themselves a nuisance from the station.

I've seen incidents (not railway related) where yobs have treated PCSO's with total contempt but soon start behaving when the real police turn up.
 

1e10

Member
Joined
13 Jun 2013
Messages
815
I've never been on a FGW operated HST service. How many customer facing railway staff [this excludes the driver] are typically on-board FGW's Intercity services?

Usually 3 or 4 on weekday services. If it gets busy I've seen other staff helping the train manage with counting passengers so that they can determine whether to hold connections or not during periods of delay.
 

Karl

On Moderation
Joined
16 Aug 2011
Messages
710
Location
Bamber Bridge
A quick 'heads-up' for tonight's episode on Channel 5 at 8pm. (Also on Channel 5 +1 an hour later at 9pm)

Season 1 Episode 2 of 12
Staff have to deal with more than 100,000 festival-goers travelling to Glastonbury by rail from around Britain and the royal train stops at St Erth station in Cornwall, before the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh board a scheduled service to St Ives. There is drama at Castle Cary when a passenger falls onto the tracks and police and workers struggle to pull him to safety

http://www.tvguide.co.uk/detail.asp?id=8227389
 

Crossover

Established Member
Joined
4 Jun 2009
Messages
9,496
Location
Yorkshire
Looking like a good series so far

I must apologise though as I really can't help but notice some of the continuity...like at Castle Cary where it went from 165, to HST, to 165, to HST, to 165, to HST, and all in the space of 30 seconds!

Looks like the "tanking" of trains is going to fall to Cross Country Voyagers...well, I guess they can't really do it on a HST :P
 

Temple Meads

Established Member
Joined
2 Sep 2010
Messages
2,283
Location
Devon
Continuity seems even worse this week than last.

I disagree actually, the Mark 3/Turbo door situation wasn't great, but apart from that I haven't noticed anything jarring.

I'm really enjoying this episode, some familiar faces are helping :)
 

northern156

Member
Joined
24 Jul 2009
Messages
100
Location
Lancashire
Really really enjoyed it; I noticed the criss-cross of Mk3/Turbo shots but it didn't matter one bit. Next week will be a good one it seems - especially as it shows the guys 'up front'!
 

tony6499

Member
Joined
27 Sep 2012
Messages
914
I never knew the St.Ives branch was so picturesque, would love to go down there some day
 

richw

Veteran Member
Joined
10 Jun 2010
Messages
11,528
Location
Liskeard
I disagree actually, the Mark 3/Turbo door situation wasn't great, but apart from that I haven't noticed anything jarring.

I'm really enjoying this episode, some familiar faces are helping :)

Do Turbos even go to Castle Cary? I would think it would be a 150 with power doors at Castle Cary.
 

anthony263

Established Member
Joined
19 Aug 2008
Messages
6,894
Location
South Wales
Yes FGW were using class 165/166's to work teh extra trains between London & Castle Cary for Glastonbury. FGW also ran class 165/166's on a Reading - Bedwyn - Westbury service when Reading was closed back last easter

There was a thead at the time on this forum along with some photos showing a class 165/166 at Westbury and Castle Carry
 

158747

Member
Joined
5 Aug 2010
Messages
338
Location
Trowbridge
The Turbos don't usually go to Castle Cary but during Glastonbury this year some of the trains from Paddington to Castle Cary were worked by Turbos.
 

ainsworth74

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Global Moderator
Joined
16 Nov 2009
Messages
31,139
Location
Redcar
I never knew the St.Ives branch was so picturesque, would love to go down there some day

All the branchlines down there are really nice. The best, in my opinion, being Looe. The whole area is worth a trip (and either the Ride Cornwall for a day trip or a Devon & Cornwall 3 in 7 are good rovers for doing it on). Also worth taking in the Night Riviera sleeper service as well.
 

tony6499

Member
Joined
27 Sep 2012
Messages
914
All the branchlines down there are really nice. The best, in my opinion, being Looe. The whole area is worth a trip (and either the Ride Cornwall for a day trip or a Devon & Cornwall 3 in 7 are good rovers for doing it on). Also worth taking in the Night Riviera sleeper service as well.

Thanks, I have boxes so will have to do a few days down there
 

Peter Mugridge

Veteran Member
Joined
8 Apr 2010
Messages
17,856
Location
Oakham
Continuity seems even worse this week than last.

The best bit was the magic trick where after several minutes covering the loading of an HST at Paddington for Glastonbury, there was a flawless edit to the despatch of a single Turbo unit...:lol:
 

asylumxl

Established Member
Joined
12 Feb 2009
Messages
4,260
Location
Hiding in your shadow
The best bit was the magic trick where after several minutes covering the loading of an HST at Paddington for Glastonbury, there was a flawless edit to the despatch of a single Turbo unit...:lol:

I like them showing the arrival of an HST at Castle Cary, the slam doors swining open, then an internal shot of passengers alighting from a Turbo :lol:.
 

IanXC

Emeritus Moderator
Joined
18 Dec 2009
Messages
6,615
The best bit was the magic trick where after several minutes covering the loading of an HST at Paddington for Glastonbury, there was a flawless edit to the despatch of a single Turbo unit...:lol:

I think this requires study. It could be the answer to all our capacity problems!
 

GodAtum

On Moderation
Joined
11 Dec 2009
Messages
2,684
"Why are these trains delayed, what about our schedules" Lol

I hated traveling on FGW, for my commuting over 3-4 months I dont think i ever got back home on time.

At the end of the 1st ep, I'm sure ive come across those teenagers before :(
 
Last edited:

Rich McLean

Established Member
Joined
6 Feb 2012
Messages
1,757
Narrator pronouced Laira wrong, he said Lara lol.

I am from Plymouth, so I am allowed to moan about that
 

Antman

Established Member
Joined
3 May 2013
Messages
6,840
Narrator pronouced Laira wrong, he said Lara lol.

I am from Plymouth, so I am allowed to moan about that


Yes I thought that was an incorrect pronouciation...........and I'm not from Plymouth;)


I'd forgotten how scenic the St Ives branch was, donkeys years since I was last there
 
Last edited by a moderator:

GodAtum

On Moderation
Joined
11 Dec 2009
Messages
2,684
I noticed he was pumping the loos on a cross country.

Do regular commuters at castle cary get priority over festival goers?
 

chris89

Established Member
Joined
21 Dec 2009
Messages
1,374
Location
Somewhere
Quite a good episode.

As i'm sure i've mentioned before. I'm so glad i don't live in that area (did live 3 miles from the Station at Cary) As those days when the festival was on were hell.

Although the last time i was in that area was when Wessex Trains were running and had extra services with FR 31s and Mark 2s :P

Chris
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top