Firstly, let me apologise in advance if this ends up turning into a bit of a rant :P
Having recently spent a day on the Metrolink with a few forum people, I got to see the new signalling in action and the bagged over old system.
Now, going back a while, as talk of the Oldham Loop line reopening ensued, I seem to recall that there were tests and teething problems with the new signalling system, which delayed the opening of the line as far as Mumps, initially. I thought this was some "fancy" system but have only now found out that TMS is actually a Line of Sight (LOS) operation, which, to me, seems like a bit of a retrograde step from having "proper" signalling.
Now, I can see that in places, the new signalling has been beneficial, mostly in the city area, especially considering my over-riding memory of Deansgate-Castlefield (or, having been told off for saying it a few weeks ago, GMEX, as it was) was sitting on the bridge waiting for the platform/block circuit to become free is now a distant memory, even if the lack of congestion here has moved congestion elsewhere, we'll let that lie for now...
However, for the 40-50mph running achieved on some of the open areas of line, such as, I believe, the Oldham line, I still struggle to see how it can be entirely failsafe. Can the M5000's stop from full pelt to a stop if they suddenly round a corner to find a tram stopped in front of them? Admittedly, in most places, visibility is very good on the new sections due to the sheer amount of vegetation clearance that took place as part of the conversion, but it'll be back, I'm sure.
It also appears that there are issues with the new system as proven particularly "well" at MediaCity UK - it was so ridiculous it was farcical!
In this instance, we were taking the first tram of the evening to do the curve from MCUK to Broadway. We pulled forward from the right side (as you look at is heading out of MCUK) platform (as an aside, this method of working doesn't half slow the job down and seems to happen on traditionally signalled lines too!) towards the junction signal and we got the middle light, which I am led to believe indicates tram detection. The light then came on, went off, came on, went off and so on. Whilst the driver was speaking to the signaller the tram in the next platform (heading to the city) then pulls forward, gets the light and the route! This then caused chaos as the points were then set wrong further down the line, as trams were now in the wrong order, and prompted the lads in the van to do something. A few minutes later the tram in front, followed by us, now with a route, got underway and we left the tram to double back from Langworthy.
Coming back the other way, we were routed from Broadway and into MCUK without a hitch, then left and pulled forward and got the route out as well (hurrah!). That was about as good as it got though, as we came down the single line section to the triangular junction, this time heading for the system, the signal was "barred" (I think that was the expression I heard from the cab). Looking down the line, it seemed all the points were set for our route across and into Harbour City, all the while one engineer sat in his van, and another having a smoke in a car also parked on the island! After seemingly attempting to contact the signallers on the in-cab system, the issue was eventually resolved when the driver spoke to someone via an (assuming a personal) iPhone!
I can't help but wonder what visitors to the area must think but these issues, alongside the now very uncared for T68's, cannot give a good impression of the system.
Has anyone else seen such things?
I'm expecting starmill may be along fairly shortly
Having recently spent a day on the Metrolink with a few forum people, I got to see the new signalling in action and the bagged over old system.
Now, going back a while, as talk of the Oldham Loop line reopening ensued, I seem to recall that there were tests and teething problems with the new signalling system, which delayed the opening of the line as far as Mumps, initially. I thought this was some "fancy" system but have only now found out that TMS is actually a Line of Sight (LOS) operation, which, to me, seems like a bit of a retrograde step from having "proper" signalling.
Now, I can see that in places, the new signalling has been beneficial, mostly in the city area, especially considering my over-riding memory of Deansgate-Castlefield (or, having been told off for saying it a few weeks ago, GMEX, as it was) was sitting on the bridge waiting for the platform/block circuit to become free is now a distant memory, even if the lack of congestion here has moved congestion elsewhere, we'll let that lie for now...
However, for the 40-50mph running achieved on some of the open areas of line, such as, I believe, the Oldham line, I still struggle to see how it can be entirely failsafe. Can the M5000's stop from full pelt to a stop if they suddenly round a corner to find a tram stopped in front of them? Admittedly, in most places, visibility is very good on the new sections due to the sheer amount of vegetation clearance that took place as part of the conversion, but it'll be back, I'm sure.
It also appears that there are issues with the new system as proven particularly "well" at MediaCity UK - it was so ridiculous it was farcical!
In this instance, we were taking the first tram of the evening to do the curve from MCUK to Broadway. We pulled forward from the right side (as you look at is heading out of MCUK) platform (as an aside, this method of working doesn't half slow the job down and seems to happen on traditionally signalled lines too!) towards the junction signal and we got the middle light, which I am led to believe indicates tram detection. The light then came on, went off, came on, went off and so on. Whilst the driver was speaking to the signaller the tram in the next platform (heading to the city) then pulls forward, gets the light and the route! This then caused chaos as the points were then set wrong further down the line, as trams were now in the wrong order, and prompted the lads in the van to do something. A few minutes later the tram in front, followed by us, now with a route, got underway and we left the tram to double back from Langworthy.
Coming back the other way, we were routed from Broadway and into MCUK without a hitch, then left and pulled forward and got the route out as well (hurrah!). That was about as good as it got though, as we came down the single line section to the triangular junction, this time heading for the system, the signal was "barred" (I think that was the expression I heard from the cab). Looking down the line, it seemed all the points were set for our route across and into Harbour City, all the while one engineer sat in his van, and another having a smoke in a car also parked on the island! After seemingly attempting to contact the signallers on the in-cab system, the issue was eventually resolved when the driver spoke to someone via an (assuming a personal) iPhone!
I can't help but wonder what visitors to the area must think but these issues, alongside the now very uncared for T68's, cannot give a good impression of the system.
Has anyone else seen such things?
I'm expecting starmill may be along fairly shortly
