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Loneliest place on the network

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Bob Ames

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I was at Ravenglass station on Wednesday, waiting for the 19:05 service to get home after a long and tiring day walking around Hardknott Pass (beautiful day, but I overdid it, and did not feel so good). I didn't see anyone at all in the 40 minutes I was on the platform, nor did I see anything roll by, and the strong wind masked any road noise I would have heard - very surprising desolation considering it wasn't dark and I had seen many people on my way into the station. To top it off, the lack of display board/announcement added to the abandoned feel of the place - I began to wonder if any train would turn up at all. I can't tell you what a relief it was to see a filthy* old 153 grow larger on the horizon, right on time!


*It looked like the windows hadn't been washed in over a year.
 
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Green Lane

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I used Stanlow & Thornton last month when travelling to Derby via Warrington Bank Quay and Crewe. I bought an off-peak return earlier in the morning from Ellesmere Port station as I was returning to Little Sutton via Hooton.

I read your post with interest as I've never heard from anyone else on these forums who has visited Stanlow & Thornton (SNT).

Although I've passed through on the train quite a few times, I've only directly visited the station in person twice.

Once a few years back, I walked from the Ellesmere Port end all the way down Oil Sites Road to the station. This was shortly after the road was permanently closed to through public traffic. It was one of the most intimidating walks I've ever done in my life. With "Private Road" and "No photography" signs all over the place, coupled with the fact I had a bag full of compact cameras (strictly for station photographing of course) and inquisitive looks from Stanlow security staff occupying the various gatehouses along the road. They did not however approach me. Also, the constant stream of oil tankers flew past at quite a pace, nearly knocking me off my feet in their wake as I walked hurredly along the narrow pavement. I did not catch a train on that day, (being about 4 hours too early) but after leaving the station, I walked back the way I came just a few minutes later, which perhaps appeared even more suspect. :D

When I later contacted Cheshire West council with a query on how a pedestrian might legitimately walk from Ellesmere Port to the village of Ince. (Option 1 the private Oil Sites road through the refinery & under the surveillance of the tight security. Option 2 along the busy 60mph A5117 road with no pavement for over a mile. Option 3 through the fields of Gowy Meadows occupied by Longhorn cattle etc.. ) - the ranger service only advised Option 3 as doable - which does not go near the station, and also does not feel any less dangerous!

Anyway the second time, I arrived at SNT by train, photographed the station and departed on the return working, back to Ellesmere Port. This was a much more relaxing and enjoyable experience although I did not leave the confines of the station on that occasion.

I would very much like to go back to the station with the newer cameras that I have now. I do very much like to visit quieter backwater stations. I always think though if I lived in the village of Thornton, over the road from the refinery, I would use the service more frequently, but I'd probably still find the walk to the station intimidating and off-putting!

But, I'd just like to ask, how did you arrive at the station? Was it on foot, car or by train? Thanks for your post!
 
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Be3G

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angel road after dark. trains rattling past, traffic grinding along over the flyovers which encircle the station and not a soul on the platforms. urban desolation en extremis

Not to mention the scrapyard just next door! Certainly the most unpleasant station I can think of.
 

Stuart-h

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Swanbourne on the defunt Bletchley to oxford line. i remember a intercity 125 passing the back of my house when i was living in Bletchley at the time.
 

Old Yard Dog

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But, I'd just like to ask, how did you arrive at the station? Was it on foot, car or by train? Thanks for your post!

I was walking to Stanlow & Thornton station from the Ince end when somebody kindly stopped and offered me a lift. That is how I came to just miss the short working to Helsby when I really wanted the through train to Warrington 29 mins later.

Despite living locally, I still don't know whether Oil Sites Road is a right of way for pedestrians, cyclists or car drivers approaching the station from the east. The barriers half way along OSR are occasionally opened when the A5117 is gridlocked, but they don't usually tell anybody. The barriers can be approached from either end but prevent through traffic.

Many years ago before the electrification extension, there were special trains from Stanlow & Thornton to Rock Ferry and a little ticket office on the south platform. There was also a small bus station. The bus service declined bit by bit till there was just the F52 running down OSR once a day. That went about 10 years ago, but the parallel 36 down the A5117 now runs every 30 mins, the best frequency ever.
 

Green Lane

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I was walking to Stanlow & Thornton station from the Ince end when somebody kindly stopped and offered me a lift. That is how I came to just miss the short working to Helsby when I really wanted the through train to Warrington 29 mins later.

Thank you very much for the informative reply. Although I've previously walked past the Ince end of Oil Sites Road, I've never approached the station from that end. The station is a lot nearer to that end though, so perhaps I should try walking from the Ince end next time I visit.

I do hope in the future that pedestrian access between Ellesmere Port and Ince can somehow be improved. Even just a sign recognising it is OK for pedestrians to walk along Oil Sites Road would be great (permissive access). I think I may have read a local authority plan somewhere a few years back to improve pedestrian and cyclist routes in the area. As a long-distance walker, I've got a walk planned, going from Birkenhead to Liverpool via the Runcorn Bridge. I have already done the entire walk, but so far only in disconnected stages on different days, not yet done it all in one go!

The bit between Ellesmere Port and Ince is the section I've found the most difficult, in short because the refinery is in the way :) . Although I've since found additional alternative permissive routes within Gowy Meadows so I have walked that way the last couple of times. That way I can usually find a walk that avoids most of the cattle, even though it adds a bit of extra distance to the walk. I've also done the walk directly along the A5117 Road, but I'm not too keen on that stretch where there's no pavement!

Also, I agree the 36 bus is a good service. I have used it on occasion, last time when I was a bit pressed for time on a Saturday, I used it to get to Thornton, as I had planned to photograph the Grade I listed church there.

Although I'm just old enough to have travelled on DMU services from Rock Ferry, I didn't know about the Rock Ferry special trains to S&T, but if I recall correctly, I did see the S&T booking office last time I was there. There's a picture of it I have found on Wikimedia:-
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MidnightFlyer

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Yeah it is Habrough (and don't do what I did and keep calling it "Harbrough"...it doesn't end well :P)

I recall it ending well enough, it was just certain locals who don't like nasty outsiders mispronouncing their villages :P
 

Mutant Lemming

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I recall it ending well enough, it was just certain locals who don't like nasty outsiders mispronouncing their villages :P

Not always so well, especially if they mispronounce it to incorporate their Tommy Cooper impersonation while sculling a pint in the Station Hotel.
 
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