For those of you who are interested in the rules about fares and ticketing
this is the link to the Ticketing and Settlement Agreement (TSA)
http://www.atoc.org/clientfiles/File/RSPDocuments/TSA V9_5 - Main Agreement (Volume 1).pdf
Below is the section that sets out the different categories of fare that can be created including "Special Fares" as discussed above with respect to Daysave
4-2 TYPES OF FARE
There are three types of Fare:-
(a) Fares whose terms are determined in a Fares Setting Round or outside a Fares Setting Round in accordance with sub-Clause 4-10(4) (referred to as Permanent Fares);
(b) Fares whose terms are not determined in a Fares Setting Round but which have been notified to the RSP in accordance with Part II of Schedule 4 (referred to as Temporary Fares); and
(c) Fares which are intended to be Sold only to persons who are within one of the categories listed in Schedule 5 and which have been notified to the RSP in accordance with Part III of Schedule 4 (referred to as Special Fares).
The link below is to the Schedules of the Ticketing and Settlement Agreement
http://www.atoc.org/clientfiles/File/RSPDocuments/TSA V9_5 - The Schedules (Volume 2).pdf
Schedule 5 deals with the types of Special Fares that can be created
If what you want to do is not on the list you can't do it!
Daysave is covered by item 6 - notice the rule about sale at stations
You could maybe argue that the FCC version is non-compliant because it doesn't offer travel on all the services of FCC (it was compliant for Thameslink but not for FCC) - but on the other hand it might be better to keep quiet!
SCHEDULE 5
SPECIAL FARES THAT MAY BE CREATED
1. Inclusive tours
Fares which may only be Sold as part of a leisure or educational travel product offered for Sale by an ITX Travel Agent or an agent of an Operator to its customers which:-
(a) as well as the relevant Fare includes overnight accommodation for:
(i) at least one night if that night falls on a day which is not a Business Day; or
(ii) at least one night if that night falls on a day which is the day before a day which is not a Business Day; or
(iii) two consecutive Business Day nights or one Business Day night upon the prior resolutions in favour of the Retail Agents Scheme Management Group and of the Products and Distribution Group (provided that it is satisfied that the relevant Fares are restricted to the leisure market); or
(b) is sold only in conjunction with a leisure or educational travel product which includes overnight accommodation for:
(i) at least one night if that night falls on a day which is not a Business Day; or
(ii) at least one night if that night falls on a day which is the day before a day which is not a Business Day; or
(iii) two consecutive Business Day nights or one Business Day night upon the prior resolutions in favour of the Retail Agents Scheme Management Group and of the Products and Distribution Group (provided that it is satisfied that the relevant Fares are restricted to the leisure market).
These Fares may not be offered for Sale at a Station or a TTL Station by an Operator or an agent of an Operator.
2. Conference travel
Fares which are intended to be Sold only to persons who wish to use them to attend a conference. These Fares may not be offered for Sale at a Station or a TTL Station (except by an ATOC Travel Agent).
3. Group travel
Fares which may only be Sold to groups of 10 or more individuals who wish to travel together.
4. Scholars' Season Ticket Fares
Season Ticket Fares which may only be Sold to persons for the purpose of attending a school, college or university.
5. Motorrail
Fares which enable the Purchasers of them to take a motor car with them when they make the journey or journeys to which the Fares entitle them.
6. System passes
Season Ticket Fares which are Sold only on the authority of one or more Operators or the Ticketing and Settlement Steering Group and entitle the Purchaser to travel anywhere on the Network using the trains of such Operator(s). These Fares may not be Sold at a Station or a TTL Station (except by an ATOC Travel Agent).
7. Airline Sales
Fares which may only be Sold by airlines, or airlines agents, to airline passengers for rail travel between the airport and a specific destination.
8. Special trains
Fares which may only be Sold to the public for travel on special trains run in connection with a specific event (e.g. the FA Cup Final, Grand National), and distributed through RSP approved systems.
9. Foreign language students
Fares which may only be Sold at special rates to language schools for foreign students for travel by their students.
10. Staff Travel
Fares which may be Sold to employees, and their dependants, of Operators , or group of Operators, who joined the service of such Operators after 3 Feb. 1996. Such Fares are only valid for travel on the services of the employing Operator, or group of employing Operators.
11 Rail Sea Rail
Through Fares between UK rail Stations and non UK rail stations. It must include an international sea journey.
12. Off-shore Return
Return Fares having extended periods of validity which may only be Sold to employees of the Oil Industry for travel to and from their place of work, at a location off-shore of Great Britain. The Sale of such Fares will be restricted to those Stations and method of payment nominated by the Operator Creating the Fare
