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Just got a great deal London to Bayerisch Eisenstein for €59! With overnight breaks of journey in Brussels and Munich.

Great value and a much nicer way to travel to Prague.
 
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Funnily enough, I nearly booked something like that, but it will wait for another year! Be interested to see a report, please.

The advantage, apart from it looking to be very scenic, and having loco-haulage on the Czech side, is that it is on the border so you then pay the standard Czech fare.
 

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Just got a great deal London to Bayerisch Eisenstein for €59! With overnight breaks of journey in Brussels and Munich.

Great value and a much nicer way to travel to Prague.

how does one go about finding that...once went Paris Bayer Eisenstein ( used to be a railbus to Pilsen) cant remember cost was many years ago press facility anyway so had to link SNCF with DB.. night sleeper Munich :
 
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You look on www.bahn.de or www.seat61.com (which has the links partly set up for you). You must do Brussels-Cologne by ICE not Thalys. You need to book to Bayerisch E only, and allow about 4 1/2 hours thence to Prague.

To get the cheapest fare you need to stay overnight in Brussels (Liege works too), and to avoid too late an arrival in Prague you could make a second stopover (the maximum stopover each time is 48 hours).
 

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You look on www.bahn.de or www.seat61.com (which has the links partly set up for you). You must do Brussels-Cologne by ICE not Thalys. You need to book to Bayerisch E only, and allow about 4 1/2 hours thence to Prague.

To get the cheapest fare you need to stay overnight in Brussels (Liege works too), and to avoid too late an arrival in Prague you could make a second stopover (the maximum stopover each time is 48 hours).

:) many thanks really helpful will check out was working on my own plan to try from Cologne to Leipzig, Dresden after that buy senior CZ card but diff arose unlikely local station perhaps not so unlikely sell card but pay one fare Praha and get nerw cards and proced from there....I know CZ wery very well from many years with camper vans since Communist era....and the rail system too.
 

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Another tip: To filter out the Thalys trains (where the London-Spezial isn't valid), put "Bruxelles-Nord" and "Köln" in the via section and then select direct services in the transport type selection thing lower down.

Last year London-Spezials were €49 (€45 with a Bahncard). Did Leipzig-London return twice in 2011 for €90 each time.
 

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The Deustche Bahn Europa-Spezial tickets look good as well. I have got a fare from Hamburg to Stockholm with a 48 hour stop in Copenhagen for €49 and you get to go on the ICE 33 which goes on the ferry. There is a €39 fare between these cities as well although there's an extra change
 

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This is a copy of my post from the Belrin thread, but thought it could be useful in this one too, given the title of the thread.

Bear in mind that Eurostar open their own bookings before DB open theirs. How well-filled a connecting Eurostar is seems to affect the price of the London Special tickets, so they don't always start at €59.

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I'm not convinced about that - the price seems to depend on which train you use from Brussels to Cologne (and sometimes Cologne to Berlin).

I'd agree with latter - I've made a couple of trips this year using these tickets (London to Berlin for Warsaw and Dresden for Prague), both booked only a few weeks before travel. The key for me was to be on the first ICE of the day from Brussels. It didn't make any difference which Eurostar I travelled on. Trains beyond Cologne/Frankfurt were able to impact on the price, but I paid €59 on both occasions.

I have heard, but cannot verify, that DB only has a small allocation on each Eurostar, though...
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The Deustche Bahn Europa-Spezial tickets look good as well. I have got a fare from Hamburg to Stockholm with a 48 hour stop in Copenhagen for €49 and you get to go on the ICE 33 which goes on the ferry. There is a €39 fare between these cities as well although there's an extra change

Indeed, there are some good international deals to be had with DB.

This year, I've had Berlin to Warsaw for €29, with a break of journey at Franfurt(Oder) and Dresden to Prague for €19, both booked at relatively short notice.

A few days ago, I found availability (at just three weeks notice) of €43 fares from Dusseldorf to Milan, with an overnight stay in Switzerland. In the end, I opted for a modified itinerary, so paid €63, which was still very reasonable. I also purchased a €79 First Class ticket from Verona to Bremen.

These fares are outstanding value compared particularly with CrossCounty back home, who have effectively almost done away with advance purchase tickets. £141.50 standard class advance purchase singles at four weeks notice between York and Exeter! In these cases, DB got my custom, but CrossCountry didn't, which is slightly ironic, given the ownership of CrossCountry!
 

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The key for me was to be on the first ICE of the day from Brussels. It didn't make any difference which Eurostar I travelled on. Trains beyond Cologne/Frankfurt were able to impact on the price, but I paid €59 on both occasions.

When I looked last night before posting the 1025 off Brussels was also good for cheap fares, and IIRC it's the first and last trains from Frankfurt (not necessarily every day of course). The LS/ES contingents on the Brussels ICEs seem to be quite small anyway, affecting ES Belgium (which BTW can be MORE expensive than a London Special - market pricing for you!)
 

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That's interesting. I was looking at going to Berlin later this year and noticed that the fare of the connecting Eurostar tended to correspond with how much the through fare was. Although, it may have just been co-incidence. One thing that annoys me though is on a Saturday, the 10:25 from Brussels has no through fare from London due to the connecting Eurostar only providing a 14-minute connection.
 

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DB does (or used to have) a single 2nd class coach on some E* services, plus some 1st class seats

This was not the case on the last trips I made to and from Brussels - my impression was that London-Spezial passengers were spread throughout the train.
 

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This year, I've had Berlin to Warsaw for €29, with a break of journey at Frankfurt(Oder) and Dresden to Prague for €19, both booked at relatively short notice.

A few days ago, I found availability (at just three weeks notice) of €43 fares from Dusseldorf to Milan, with an overnight stay in Switzerland. In the end, I opted for a modified itinerary, so paid €63, which was still very reasonable. I also purchased a €79 First Class ticket from Verona to Bremen.

This is really useful info, thank-you. I'd never thought of Germany to Italy trains being available as part of the DB deals. Pity there's none to Rome (unless there are). I should have guessed about Warsaw though.
 

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you can do verona Venice or Milan but any further is trenitalia internal services .
 

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my impression was that London-Spezial passengers were spread throughout the train.

That matches my experience - in January, I was sat in a coach where some people got off at Lille, whilst others boarded there and many people were simply going from London to Brussels and no further.
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When I looked last night before posting the 1025 off Brussels was also good for cheap fares, and IIRC it's the first and last trains from Frankfurt (not necessarily every day of course). The LS/ES contingents on the Brussels ICEs seem to be quite small anyway, affecting ES Belgium (which BTW can be MORE expensive than a London Special - market pricing for you!)

Indeed. When I booked my London Special to Berlin, I noticed that Eurostar wanted £62 for a single to Brussels on the same train, yet I paid just £49 right through to Berlin!

Thanks for mentioning the 10:25 ICE, that could come in handy on future trips when there is more daylight.
 
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