Another heir to the throne

[DarloRich]

Charles is next in line for the throne, but some internet sources are saying that because of his age that William is next, but once is child is born, wouldn't the child be next in throne?

Not surprising news as I was expecting it sometime soon but still a good event

that is wrong and frankly wibble. The order of succession to the crown runs as follows:

Charles
William
Baby X (if born alive)
Harry
Andrew
Beatrice
Eugenie
Edward
Viscount Severn
Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor
ETC
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technically it isn't another heir to the throne. There is only one heir to the throne. Charles. He is the heir apparent.

 

[Eagle]

It's been agreed to abandon male primogeniture, although I'm not sure if this will apply to persons already born. If so, the order will then run Charles, William, ???, Harry, Anne, Peter, Savannah, Isla, Zara, Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie, Edward, Louise, James.

 

[DarloRich]

It's been agreed to abandon male primogeniture, although I'm not sure if this will apply to persons already born. If so, the order will then run Charles, William, ???, Harry, Anne, Peter, Savannah, Isla, Zara, Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie, Edward, Louise, James.

i understood it only applied to any new sprogs

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

It's been agreed to abandon male primogeniture, although I'm not sure if this will apply to persons already born. If so, the order will then run Charles, William, ???, Harry, Anne, Peter, Savannah, Isla, Zara, Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie, Edward, Louise, James.

It will take some decision to be reached should a monarch called Savannah ascends to the throne bearing that name. Thank goodness there is no Chardonnay in this list...

 

[richw]

Bit of a silly comment tbh.

exactly what it was meant to be...a joke copy and pasted off twitter.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

This particular thread has set me thinking about some of the beliefs that were personally held by the monarchy here in past days. Who was it who decided that the monarch should enjoy the privilege of Divine Right and how long back in time did that go back to ? This idea did not seem to end with the Reformation and with the exception of the short-period of the Commonwealth ending in 1660, it still carried on until 1688/1689.
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[Ivo]

Best of luck to William and Kate, of course, but whilst I support the Monarchy I'm not really that interested in stories about x being pregnant. Even in situations in which said baby has a very real possibility of becoming King/Queen one day.

Ah think the shud caall the #royalbaby Dale if itz a boy an Febreeze if itz a gorl. Coz gorra keep up wur the teims leik divvn't the pet.

Can someone translate this into English please?

 

[Eagle]

Can someone translate this into English please?

Never been to Newcastle? :P

I think they should call the #RoyalBaby Dale if it's a boy, and Febreze if it's a girl. Because you've got to keep up with the times [arbitrary stereotypical Geordie interjections].

 

[Ivo]

I've been to Newcastle, yes - but written Geordie is like a foreign language to me. Spoken is just about OK though.

The first sentence is OK; it's the second that's causing me problems. I'd like to know where Ditzy got those names from though, and what inspired their choices...

 

[Clip]

I've been to Newcastle, yes - but written Geordie is like a foreign language to me. Spoken is just about OK though.

The first sentence is OK; it's the second that's causing me problems. I'd like to know where Ditzy got those names from though, and what inspired their choices...

Probably just plucked out of thin air for purely comedy purposes, I wouldnt worry your head with trying to work it out. Not every thing needs analysis

 

[Temple Meads]

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

I think I've finally found the right religion for me

Bit of a silly comment tbh.

Seconded...

 

[Eagle]

I think I've finally found the right religion for me

Spread the word. Keep the faith.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

The first sentence is OK; it's the second that's causing me problems. I'd like to know where Ditzy got those names from though, and what inspired their choices...

I think it very strange indeed to name the female child after the name of a household odour eliminator, even though this product is actively marketed with television advertising.

 

[theblackwatch]

I think it very strange indeed to name the female child after the name of a household odour eliminator, even though this product is actively marketed with television advertising.

Almost as strange as naming your daughters after (1) a tin of fruit, and (2) a mythical Cornish creature - which Bob Geldof did!

 

[Oswyntail]

This particular thread has set me thinking about some of the beliefs that were personally held by the monarchy here in past days. Who was it who decided that the monarch should enjoy the privilege of Divine Right and how long back in time did that go back to ? This idea did not seem to end with the Reformation and with the exception of the short-period of the Commonwealth ending in 1660, it still carried on until 1688/1689.
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I saw an interesting comment somewhere recently that the question of "Divine Right" was actually an essential part of the concept of modern, hereditary, constitutional monarchy. The idea (IIRC) was that the throne was not the property of the Monarch, but was given by "God", imposed a certain set of duties, responsibilities and morality on the holder. It did not mean that the Monarch had a god-given right to do anything they pleased. It also, however, imposed on Parliament the duty to respect the Monarch, and that was too much for Cromwell and his followers. If you compare the attitudes of Charles I and the contemporary French monarchs you can see the difference. The "War of the three kingdoms" was really fought to refine the concept, and make sure the checks and balances were in place.

 

[yorkie]

exactly what it was meant to be...a joke copy and pasted off twitter.

Not a particularly good one, but if you want to be really traditional, anyone know any names used by Pagans or perhaps Ancient Britons (depending how far you want to go back) before the Christians came over here and brutally forced our ancestors to convert to Christianity? That'd be proper traditional

 

[kylemore]

If anything the monarchy is stronger now than it has been for many years.

I hate to disappoint you but the demise of the monarchy is a long long way off.

Thats what they said in 1913 in Russia
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Well at least that's them off the hook as regards Hewitt's boy.
Expect a spare to follow pronto.

 

[starrymarkb]

I'm more interested in what the original picture might be

The Octopus?

As for what's in the advert... Generic Painting of Mother and Sprog?

 

[Oswyntail]

Not a particularly good one, but if you want to be really traditional, anyone know any names used by Pagans or perhaps Ancient Britons (depending how far you want to go back) before the Christians came over here and brutally forced our ancestors to convert to Christianity? That'd be proper traditional

So many falsehoods in a single post!:roll:

... Hewitt's boy..

An often hinted at "fact" - but he is looking more and more like Prince Charles every day. Just watch them side by side.

 

[Ivo]

There's a market among bookmakers for the baby's name. Any excuse for a quick buck for them

Oddschecker

Some selected examples, using William Hill prices...

Elizabeth  10/1
Charles .. 10/1
Phillip .. 12/1
Diana .... 12/1
William .. 16/1
Edward ... 16/1
Andrew ... 20/1
Catherine  20/1
Albert ... 25/1
Philippa . 25/1
Beatrice . 33/1

Curiously enough, they don't seem to offer prices for Harry or Pippa, although a few other companies do, with odds of up to 80/1 available for both.

Other names that aren't known for being prominently royal (but still "relevant" in some cases) are shown as well, such as Carole (16/1), David (20/1), Amelia (25/1), Oliver (33/1) and Christian (40/1), and the odd ambitious one such as Matilda (100/1).

And then they have a few joke names, such as Waynetta (1000/1). Pick of the bunch has to go to Paddy Power though, with Hashtag (500/1).

 

[bb21]

Queen Carole hock:

Just doesn't sound right, does it? Although mind I do like King Oliver.

 

[ainsworth74]

Queen Carole hock:

Just doesn't sound right, does it? Although mind I do like King Oliver.

Yes that does sound a tad, odd...

Though when/if they accede to the throne they could choose a different name if they wanted to. It's been suggested in some quarters that Charles might take a different name when he does seeing as Charles I helped to instigate a Civil War and lost his head whilst Charles II also had his moments.

 

[starrymarkb]

Probably just plucked out of thin air for purely comedy purposes, I wouldnt worry your head with trying to work it out. Not every thing needs analysis

It is a comedy account... https://twitter.com/cherylkerl

 

[Eagle]

Curiously enough, they don't seem to offer prices for Harry or Pippa, although a few other companies do, with odds of up to 80/1 available for both.

They do, Pippa is short for Phillipa.


Also England has had a monarch called Matilda before so it's not that ambitious.

 

[fgwrich]

How did this make headline news? Especially looking at the articles beneath it...

Article 2: Starbucks Planning tax changes
Article 3: US fears Syria Chemical Strike

Call me republican if you like but in my humble opinion that sums up what's wrong with the BBC and probably the wider news media

Oh it's just the beginning - Because we live here in the south, BBC South Today has to take a trip to Bucklebury where we have to find out what the opinion of everyone and the postman thinks of the news, with updates / reactions from Bucklebury coming for the next 9 or so months...

 

[transmanche]

Though when/if they accede to the throne they could choose a different name if they wanted to. It's been suggested in some quarters that Charles might take a different name when he does seeing as Charles I helped to instigate a Civil War and lost his head whilst Charles II also had his moments.

Yes. George VI was actually 'Albert Frederick Arthur George' - and known as Prince Albert before becoming King.

Charles is 'Charles Philip Arthur George' - so who knows... George VII perhaps?

 

[Oswyntail]

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Charles is 'Charles Philip Arthur George' - so who knows... George VII perhaps?

Charles - as said, lost head, civil war, or Merry Monarch
Philip - a tad spanish
Arthur - suits him, as it is away with the fairies, but thereagain perhaps not.
So George VII it is then (suitably boring and dull)

 

[bb21]

Charles - as said, lost head, civil war, or Merry Monarch

Then again, King Charles III can be the one to wash off those nasty reputations his predecessors had associated the name with.

I rather like the sound of Charles III.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Well....

In Victoria's time we were Victorians.

In George's time we were Georgians.

In Edward's time we were Edwardians.

Under Charles and William... ummm.... errr....

 

[LE Greys]

Of course, it may never happen. If the Queen lasts as long as her mother, Charles will be 80 by the time he finally gets the throne. He may not last that long, we just don't know. Still, I reckon he will stick with the name, it's what he's been known as for as long as he's been alive. So, 'Charles III' gets my vote.

As for the new one, I'm rather hoping they choose something not seen before. Or perhaps, if its a girl, name her after her grandmother.