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Liquid Nitrogen cocktails....the new "high" ?

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Xenophon PCDGS

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Does the case of the girl who had to have her stomach removed after drinking such a weird concoction show that there are now no health boundaries that cannot be exceeded, which people will then defend as freedom to do anything with their own bodies to obtain immediate sensory gratification ?
 
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Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/19866191
Amy Gladwell for BBC Newsbeat said:

Teenager's stomach removed after drinking cocktail

A teenager has had emergency surgery to remove her stomach after drinking a cocktail containing liquid nitrogen.

Lancashire Police say Gaby Scanlon was out with friends in Lancaster last Thursday (4 October) when it happened.

The 18-year-old is reported to have become breathless and developed severe stomach pain before being taken to Royal Lancaster Infirmary.

Officers say she would have died if doctors had not performed the operation.

The woman, from Heysham in Lancashire, was taken from Oscar's wine bar to hospital at 11pm.

She was diagnosed with a perforated, or pierced stomach, and is now in a serious but stable condition.

That is weird, I'm guessing it'd cause burns and I guess a "smoking" drink looks cool and you'd not really ask where it come from. I'd say the bar in question has a duty of care to it's patrons as surely they'd know the effect of liquid nitrogen?

Perhaps I'm unadventurous but I can't imagine why anyone would knowingly drink liquid nitrogen? Isn't it obvious it's going to immediately evaporate (and therefore expand) as soon as it's exposed to room temperature? That's if the rapid temperature change doesn't cause burns.
 
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You would Imagine that If it where being sold, It had been proven safe. I'm rather more concerned that a bar put their customers in a situation where this could happen.

And paul, look at japanese fugu, that is a similar situation, eating a posionous fish that has to be prepared very carefully otherwise there may be danger of death. So its not a new thing.
 

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That is weird, I'm guessing it'd cause burns and I guess a "smoking" drink looks cool and you'd not really ask where it come from. I'd say the bar in question has a duty of care to it's patrons as surely they'd know the effect of liquid nitrogen?

Perhaps I'm unadventurous but I can't imagine why anyone would knowingly drink liquid nitrogen? Isn't it obvious it's going to immediately evaporate (and therefore expand) as soon as it's exposed to room temperature? That's if the rapid temperature change doesn't cause burns.

You are assuming a level of both knowledge and awareness that is higher than average, I would say!
 

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Hmm, I'm amazed that the bar was allowed to serve such drinks. Liquid nitrogen is dangerous stuff.

That said, about 20 years ago in my youth, we did make such cocktails! But we were using liquid nitrogen all day and knew how to handle it and the risks involved. Made carefully you could make some spectacular looking drinks but we were really careful not to actually injest any liquid nitrogen.
(Seriously - they looked great!)

It sounds as if this girl wasn't told this final vital point. I hope the permanant damage isn't too bad for her...

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I've always been under the impression that Liquid Nitrogen was obscenely expensive?
 

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When I first heard of the story, I assumed it would have occurred in one of the "big-city" club situations.....Perhaps Lancaster is more "trend-setting" than I ever gave it credit for.

It wasn't when I lived there about twelve years ago, however I didn't recognise the nightspot mentioned as one of my old drinking dens so things may have changed !
 

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When I first heard of the story, I assumed it would have occurred in one of the "big-city" club situations.....Perhaps Lancaster is more "trend-setting" than I ever gave it credit for.

I guess that it may be to do with the relatively high student population in the city.
 

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I had a cocktail with liquid nitrogen on holiday this year. The barman told me to leave it a few minutes to enusre that it had all evaporated. Being a cautious sort, I waited for half an hour. It wasn't very nice, so I didn't have it again.
 

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If you want fog coming out of your drink throw a lump of dry ice in it. Far less cold, evaporates quicker, and because it's not a liquid it can't cause extensive burns.

Liquid nitrogen is not something I ever want coming into contact with any part of my body.
 

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Knowing what has occurred, can not the use of liquid nitrogen in drinks served on licenced premises be banned ?

Given the paranoia over H&S related matters where far more benign substances are concerned, it is rather a surprise that anyone even dared to think of selling a drink with liquid nitrogen in it in the first place.
 

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Given the paranoia over H&S related matters where far more benign substances are concerned, it is rather a surprise that anyone even dared to think of selling a drink with liquid nitrogen in it in the first place.

Perhaps this is to have been expected from those who see any extra way of getting down alcohol down the throats of young drinkers as another way of increasing financial turnover.
 

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Either way, I think a few rather messy court cases are coming the way of the bar owner & manager...
 

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I would expect the bar owners to understand the risks and ensure that customers don't drink the stuff, which they appear to have failed to do. It's only going to be present very briefly, unless they're adding loads, so this wouldn't usually be a problem - AIUI the girls friends brought her the drink which she promptly drank, as you would at your party.

Liquid nitrogen's not terribly bad unless it's trapped against your skin (or innards). In which case it's pretty nasty - it could be compared to having 250C hot oil in one's drink. One can dip a hand up to the wrist in it as long as it's promptly removed, and not feel anything more than a cool sensation. I don't generally use gloves when handling LN2 as splashes just bounce off skin - the only injury I've witnessed from it was when some got trapped in the fold of a glove, resulting in a burn blister.

I'd agree that dry ice is better in drinks though - it sinks and thus makes a more impressive bubbling/mist effect - LN2 floats on the surface and thus doesn't generate as much mist. It's also easier and safer to handle - though probably just as bad if ingested.
 

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Not even a diamond ring placed at the bottom of the glass would encourage me to drink a Jager bomb....let alone some liquid nitrogen!!
 

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Did the poor girl drink it while it was still freezing cold and vapour coming off the top? That would be painful going down. What would happen if the bartender spilled the drink while preparing it with liquid nitrogen?
 
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