Victoria Line extension

[Bostart73]

Yeah yeah I know. The Victoria line's at capacity and all that.

But imagine. One more stop at each end. How many people getting on at Walthamstow and Brixton are only doing so because they have had to bus or even train in from an underserved area?

Just to the SE of Walthamstow lies Whipps Cross - a railless suburb about halfway between the Victoria and Central lines. It has a hospital which people will wish to get to not only for their own treatment but to visit loved ones staying in there.

Then there's the idea Boris was prepared to sanction (in the days before he got the top job and disgraced himself) of a one stop southward extension to Herne Hill where a number of National Rail routes intersect.

We all know Brixton tube doesn't have a very close interchange with the main line. How many who board there have already had to change at Herne Hill?

If only one thing can be done to the Victoria line short of CR2 finally getting the go ahead to take some pressure off then surely extending at either end to create a Whipps Cross-Herne Hill route would be one of the least harmful options.

 

[cle]

We all know Brixton tube doesn't have a very close interchange with the main line. How many who board there have already had to change at Herne Hill?

Most from Tulse Hill or Streatham would 'tube-head' into Brixton by bus, indeed very many do. I doubt people come from further, to change at Herne Hill, and some of those places like Mitcham-Carshalton, have Victoria services. As does everywhere West Dulwich onwards.

 

[Sad Sprinter]

I think extending the Victoria down to Streatham station would be incredible. Especially with a stop at Streatham Hill.

Even better, extending it down to Croydon.

Unfortunately, the tunnels point south east at Brixton!

 

[TheWierdOne]

I think extending the Victoria down to Streatham station would be incredible. Especially with a stop at Streatham Hill.

Even better, extending it down to Croydon.

Unfortunately, the tunnels point south east at Brixton!

I don’t think the tunnels pointing the wrong direction would be much of an issue. The current curve into Brixton from the north looks like a similar curve southwards would give you enough wiggle room to get to Streatham before heading down to Croydon

 

[JonathanH]

What would be the actual benefit to Transport for London of extending to Streatham (or anywhere else). Brixton already has many feeder buses, so there can't be a lot of revenue on offer. The costs would clearly go up with more running. How would it improve London's economy?

 

[Crithylum]

What would be the actual benefit to Transport for London of extending to Streatham (or anywhere else). Brixton already has many feeder buses, so there can't be a lot of revenue on offer. The costs would clearly go up with more running.

Victoria line costs would go up, but I would be very surprised if they went up by more than the cost of operating the now redundant buses. However, the current ticketing system double charges anyone using bus + train, so it may overall be revenue negative.

How would it improve London's economy?

People would be more likely to participate in economic activity in central London if it is easier to get to. However, if the central London stations are already at capacity, there will be a limit to this.

 

[JonathanH]

However, the current ticketing system double charges anyone using bus + train, so it may overall be revenue negative.

Yes, that really does count against an extension.

Victoria line costs would go up, but I would be very surprised if they went up by more than the cost of operating the now redundant buses.

Maybe, but would the buses really be cut back from Brixton to Streatham? The same issue about paying twice would apply.

 

[stuu]

We all know Brixton tube doesn't have a very close interchange with the main line. How many who board there have already had to change at Herne Hill?

Do we? It's about 150m, which isn't any further than some interchanges within stations. Admittedly Brixton station is a hole and not a nice place when it's quiet, but it's not actually a bad interchange

 

[Bostart73]

Do we? It's about 150m, which isn't any further than some interchanges within stations. Admittedly Brixton station is a hole and not a nice place when it's quiet, but it's not actually a bad interchange

Admittedly my info came at least in part from Wikipedia which links to this article. www.londonreconnections.com/2012/unlocking-herne-hill-and-the-kent-route-to-the-city-2/

 

[HSTEd]

If you were to pursue the sometimes proposed extension of the Victoria line to Herne Hill, would there be any point in keeping Brixton railway station open?
I'm not sure if it would serve much purpose, and it is already out passengered by the tube station by 30 times. It's service doesn't seem that good considering its location.

 

[LLivery]

If you were to pursue the sometimes proposed extension of the Victoria line to Herne Hill, would there be any point in keeping Brixton railway station open?
I'm not sure if it would serve much purpose, and it is already out passengered by the tube station by 30 times. It's service doesn't seem that good considering its location.

Brixton needs more rail connectivity, not less

 

[TheGuy77]

Perhaps an extension to Oprington via the Bromley South line, and another to Purley via Streatham and the BML.