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[John R]

Not according to most English dictionaries.

By way of example

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fine

Legally it is not a fine. It is a financial agreement between the two parties under which one party agrees not to take court action against the other - hence an “out of court settlement”.

The basis of the settlement is the fares avoided (there is some debate as to the methodology used to calculate this) plus an amount to cover admin costs of the wronged party. Unlike a court case, there is no explicit punishment element to the settlement offer.

 

[Deafdoggie]

Legally it is not a fine. It is a financial agreement between the two parties under which one party agrees not to take court action against the other - hence an “out of court settlement”.

The basis of the settlement is the fares avoided (there is some debate as to the methodology used to calculate this) plus an amount to cover admin costs of the wronged party. Unlike a court case, there is no explicit punishment element to the settlement offer.

It comes from the Latin Fins, meaning Finish or End. In other words, paying the fine puts an end to the matter. So saying it's a fine is a perfectly acceptable meaning and use of the word, and a meaning used in everyday speech

 

[John R]

It comes from the Latin Fins, meaning Finish or End. In other words, paying the fine puts an end to the matter. So saying it's a fine is a perfectly acceptable meaning and use of the word, and a meaning used in everyday speech

That might well be the case, but I think it’s important that we make it clear to posters the legal position, if only that if they are asked in the future (say in respect of employment), they know that they were not fined, and they do not need to disclose the incident.

 

[Deafdoggie]

That might well be the case, but I think it’s important that we make it clear to posters the legal position, if only that if they are asked in the future (say in respect of employment), they know that they were not fined, and they do not need to disclose the incident.

I know of nowhere that asks if you were fined. Merely if you have a criminal conviction. A criminal conviction may, or may not, lead to a fine. Telling people that they don't need to declare something because they weren't fined is poor advice. If they were convicted they need to declare it regardless. And not only to any employers, but to their insurers too. Again, they are interested in convictions, not the punishment

 

[John R]

I know of nowhere that asks if you were fined. Merely if you have a criminal conviction. A criminal conviction may, or may not, lead to a fine. Telling people that they don't need to declare something because they weren't fined is poor advice. If they were convicted they need to declare it regardless. And not only to any employers, but to their insurers too. Again, they are interested in convictions, not the punishment

We make it clear they have not been convicted either. If you think we don’t need to make it clear exactly what is happening to those coming for help here then fine, but this forum works if people give clear and accurate advice. I’ll leave it there.

 

[Hadders]

That's enough about whether a fine is a fine!

Can we concentrate on assisting the OP's substantial question.

 

[g2theb]

Hi all thanks for advice its already paid and i recieved the letter

 

[30907]

Hi all thanks for advice its already paid and i recieved the letter

Thanks for the update.