jpl
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Boden in Sweden has platforms on both sides of track 3. Last time I was there the train doors opened on both sides. It makes connection to other trains easier.
Depends on how big the gap to mind is, I'd say.
They also get away with yellow lines in a position that would get me yelled at if I stood there on a National Rail station with a train arriving. Different rules it seems.
(Also a lower voltage with the voltage difference split across the four rails. Or is that just in cast tunnel sections?)
The platform 7/8 island is not very wide, and the subway ramp takes a big chunk out. Plenty of passengers use the p7 side to walk past the subway or simply as somewhere to wait, especially when p8 is crowded.I suspect not, because most people are going to be nowhere near the platform edge unless there is a train at the platform to board. But I don't have the stats to hand.
Guildford has a bad habit of last-minute platform changes, especially for the GWR trains, which are the main users of p8.If it's a valid connection you should have time to get up and over the bridge. If not the connectional allowance needs reviewing.
Well, thanks. So much for passenger convenience. It's box-tickers 1, passengers 0.
The railway's job is to transport as many people as possible, not every possible passenger. This does mean that individual passengers won't always be able to make the optimum journey. If the station had been built with a conventional platform on only 1 side nobody would be demanding they take out the track to make a flat connection at Guildford.Remember - the pasenger is always in the wrong.
Only in an imaginary world in which trains always arrive on time.
These are problems for the railway to fix, and opening doors on the other side doesn't fix the root cause of late platform changes or delayed change. And, FWIW, while it's impossible to get 100% of trains on time the railway could be doing a darn sight better about getting into the high 90s.Guildford has a bad habit of last-minute platform changes, especially for the GWR trains, which are the main users of p8.
I agree, so long as you do so on the understanding that the railway never advertised ("promised") the connection. Otherwise it's like going into a Wetherspoons and being upset when they don't offer you complimentary Champagne on entry. I've personally made 3-4 minute connections at Bristol Temple Meads when the advertised allowance is 10 minutes, but that's because I absolutely pelted it when using the subway to change trains.And there's nothing wrong with wanting to making a connection with a time below the allowance.
Tbh this is an argument for just fencing off Platform 7.The platform 7/8 island is not very wide, and the subway ramp takes a big chunk out. Plenty of passengers use the p7 side to walk past the subway or simply as somewhere to wait, especially when p8 is crowded.
The railway's job is to transport as many people as possible, not every possible passenger. This does mean that individual passengers won't always be able to make the optimum journey. If the station had been built with a conventional platform on only 1 side nobody would be demanding they take out the track to make a flat connection at Guildford.
Eh?Those who want doors open on both sides should support DOO.
I'm not seeing an intractable problem here.The only reasonable way to ensure a speedy dispatch. Otherwise it's guard closing doors on opposite sides separately (particularly problematic when done from the passenger saloon in busy periods), where closing the doors on the other side could easily add 30 seconds.
Indeed, so in a desperate attempt to restore topicality I've found this shot of Chișinău, Moldova in 2018. Fairly common Eastern European platform layout, encased in concrete.

Mini platforms on the “offside” used to be fairly common for loading parcels etc - keeping all that traffic clear of the passenger platforms. Remember them being pretty busy at Cologne back in the late 80s.And a very interesting photo too - thanks for that!
I don't know what the skinny platform between the tracks is for. In fact the layout is rather odd, in that the thin platform becomes a much wider one beyond the canopy.
(It's also not obvious to me why the train in the photo, which had arrived from Bucharest, didn't just use the platform nearest to the station building. The next train due wasn't for a long time.)
I did once end up on a mini platform like that in Slovakia having inadvertently descended from a train on the wrong side and it wasn't a very comfortable place to be as the train left.
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I don't know what the skinny platform between the tracks is for. In fact the layout is rather odd, in that the thin platform becomes a much wider one beyond the canopy.
(It's also not obvious to me why the train in the photo, which had arrived from Bucharest, didn't just use the platform nearest to the station building. The next train due wasn't for a long time.)
I don't think it's that, at least in eastern Europe. Passenger platforms between running lines, such as existed, were usually narrow. Trains passing on parallel tracks were usually (not always) directed to draw up clear of each other. Passengers waiting to board were supposed to wait by the station building until their train had been announced. In recent decades this is not observed so much.Mini platforms on the “offside” used to be fairly common for loading parcels etc - keeping all that traffic clear of the passenger platforms. Remember them being pretty busy at Cologne back in the late 80s.



