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Travelling on Virgin 1st Class?

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rail-britain

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I did a 14 day First Class All Line Rail Rover last summer, so here are my recommendations (full details can be found at rail-britain.co.uk/wordpress/?page_id=2)

Virgin Trains
Travel from London Euston to another main destination, such as Birmingham New Street, Crewe, or Manchester
I prefer the tables with two seats, an example being Coach G Seat 01 northbound and Coach G Seat 45
Check their timetables to see where breakfast is available, it is possible to complete a return journey with two breakfasts, or for longer journeys and breaks (to Glasgow) with breakfast and evening meal
On my most recent trip the lunch has greatly deteriorated in value, from a salad or sandwich, to a simple snack
The evening meal has also deteriorated (from original launch), however some services have vastly more stock and very often offer a second round of meals!
The breakfast is little changed and still represents good value
Sadly the fares for these services have greatly increased

East Coast / EMT / FGW :
First Class customers receive basic drinks and biscuits only
There are no extras for First Class ticket holders on the FGW sleeper

FSR :
First Class customers receive basic drinks and biscuits on some express services
On the sleeper, a complimentary breakfast with a First Class sleeper reservation only

WSR :
I was only able to travel once, the breakfast was ENORMOUS!

ATW :
The breakfast was much better than VT
I was so impressed I changed my last day so as to also sample an evening meal
Sadly this was disappointing, but still a vast improvement on what was on offer from VT

XC :
Most services offer drinks, snacks are served at certain times and between certain places on routes

One final note is to watch for VT services between Euston and Crewe, as some are operated by Voyagers
In my experience these were the first to have a host removed and a more basic service offered (typically one round of drinks and limited range of snacks; no meals)
 
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WSR :
I was only able to travel once, the breakfast was ENORMOUS!

ATW :
The breakfast was much better than VT
I was so impressed I changed my last day so as to also sample an evening meal
Sadly this was disappointing, but still a vast improvement on what was on offer from VT

I cant seem to find an info on ATW 1st class on their website. Also what do other people think of dinner on WSR?

I really want to go but I'm not sure about the weather situation :-?
 

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I cant seem to find an info on ATW 1st class on their website. Also what do other people think of dinner on WSR?

I really want to go but I'm not sure about the weather situation :-?

They only have 1st class on the WAG Express (premier service) that runs the 0533(?) Holyhead - Cardiff (arr 0958) and the 16XX Cardiff - Holyhead :D
 

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I did a 14 day First Class All Line Rail Rover last summer, so here are my recommendations (full details can be found at rail-britain.co.uk/wordpress/?page_id=2)

Virgin Trains
Travel from London Euston to another main destination, such as Birmingham New Street, Crewe, or Manchester

Check their timetables to see where breakfast is available, it is possible to complete a return journey with two breakfasts, or for longer journeys and breaks (to Glasgow) with breakfast and evening meal
On my most recent trip the lunch has greatly deteriorated in value, from a salad or sandwich, to a simple snack
The evening meal has also deteriorated (from original launch), however some services have vastly more stock and very often offer a second round of meals!
The breakfast is little changed and still represents good value
Sadly the fares for these services have greatly increased
You can also get 2x Breakfasts on journeys like Glasgow to London if your crew changes at Preston as the 2nd crew does breakfast again and don't know you have already eaten one. Even if the seat is occupied you may have got on a Lancaster and not already had one. Remember with Virgin you have paid for this meal in the ticket price and what is worse if you are travelling from Scotland is the fact that the Voyagers and Pendo's service is so different. I you travel from Glasgow - Preston on a Voyager you get a breakfast served at your seat, (or whatever meal is on offer). If you book on a Voyager you have to walk to the shop and get whatever is on offer. In the case of breakfast a soggy microwaved bacon roll. Why the 1st class ticket isn't automatically cheaper on a voyager I will never know!

East Coast / EMT / FGW :
First Class customers receive basic drinks and biscuits only
There are no extras for First Class ticket holders on the FGW sleeper
you now can get crisps or a cake on east coast :lol: On some east coast / FGW you have the option to buy food which will be served at your seats. The burgers on east coast are very good. Although not many Leeds services have catering.
FSR :
First Class customers receive basic drinks and biscuits on some express services
On the sleeper, a complimentary breakfast with a First Class sleeper reservation only
The buffet is very reasonably priced for everything else.
XC :
Most services offer drinks, snacks are served at certain times and between certain places on routes
Roulette, Nothing North of Newcastle, South of Bristol and Reading (outside the core) Nothing when the train is overcrowded. Again travel between Edinburgh and Leeds go for East Coast if you want so refreshments even if you do need to change!
One final note is to watch for VT services between Euston and Crewe, as some are operated by Voyagers
In my experience these were the first to have a host removed and a more basic service offered (typically one round of drinks and limited range of snacks; no meals)
Avoid voyagers end of story if you want refreshments they are certainly championship compared the pendo in the premier league. Transpennie express will offer tea and a snack in first class, on the longer distance journeys this snack is sometime cap-a-soup. Beware this won't be seen if it is busy
 

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VT :
You can also get 2x Breakfasts on journeys like Glasgow to London if your crew changes at Preston as the 2nd crew does breakfast again and don't know you have already eaten one

XC:
Roulette, Nothing North of Newcastle, South of Bristol and Reading (outside the core) Nothing when the train is overcrowded. Again travel between Edinburgh and Leeds go for East Coast if you want so refreshments even if you do need to change!
I travelled on the 04:25 Glasgow - Euston and had two breakfasts (the second crew even asked if I wanted another one!)
The chef gets off at Carlisle, and there was a further change at Preston
I could have had three breakfasts!
I was the only person in First Class between Glasgow and Preston

I didn't experience any problems with catering on XC between Edinburgh and Newcastle
I did complain by email though as the host went to Standard first then served First Class last
The train was an hour late and had it not been for that then only the Standard ticket holders would have been served
As it was, I was supposed to be on the NXEC service leaving Edinburgh 20 minutes later, but wanted the experience of the HST to Newcastle, swapping trains
 

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On WSMR all meals and soft drinks are free in 1st class. Only alcoholic drinks need to be paid for at the table.

I was also surprised last week when I left my 1st class seat to got to the buffet to buy a bar of Cadbury's chocolate to discover that was free too !

WSMR is by far the most impressive catering the UK railway has ever seen in my opinion ! :p
 

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Bought my tickets for Virgin from Euston - Manchester, Manchester - Liverpool, and Liverpool - Euston. Got individual seats by the window and on the way back a seat in coach K :D
 

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If TPE has been missed, you get a hot drink or water and a biscuit, but only on the core routes (which is York - Manchester, Donny - Manchester and all Anglo-Scottish routes) at certain times.
 

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You also get FC on TPE Manc - Liverpool, done by a Manc trolley.
 

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12A. I was hoping to get served dinner first!
Coach K Seat 12 is acceptable northbound
However southbound this is back to directon of travel
Check Seat 18 on boarding and see if it is unreserved (seat 15 will be opposite on the table of two), that would be my choice in Coach K
 
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