Time restrictions and split ticket with freedom pass

[z444z]

Quick question:

Journey is Waterloo to Petersfield, tomorrow. Freedom pass is valid up to Surbiton. A super off-peak return from Surbiton (or Boundary Zone 6) to Petersfield is “Not valid on trains timed to depart after 04:29 and before 12:01“.

Would this combination be valid on a train timed to depart Waterloo at 11:54, call at Clapham Junction at 12:02, and pass through Surbiton presumably some time around 12:15 (can’t be bothered checking but it’ll certainly be after 12:01…)?

I’d guess this’d be the same as standard split tickets and so would be valid but given that the train doesn’t call at Surbiton just wanted to double check.

 

[Edvid]

The applicable time would be the last departure within the zones - i.e. 1202 from Clapham Junction since your Freedom Pass relies on validity 'assistance' thereafter for that particular service.

As per screenshots from the forum TrainSplit site your Freedom Pass + BZ6-Petersfield combo should be valid.

 

[z444z]

The applicable time would be the last departure within the zones - i.e. 1202 from Clapham Junction since your Freedom Pass relies on validity 'assistance' thereafter for that particular service.

Makes sense that it’d have to be based on a departure time from a station, so in this case a conveniently timed service. Thanks for clarifying!

 

[Watershed]

The validity of such tickets for non-stop splits is somewhat ambiguous - I think it's arguable that it is based on the time the train is scheduled to pass the 'starting' station (Surbiton in this case) when used for a non-stop split. But either way, it's clearly valid on that train.

 

[z444z]

The validity of such tickets for non-stop splits is somewhat ambiguous - I think it's arguable that it is based on the time the train is scheduled to pass the 'starting' station (Surbiton in this case) when used for a non-stop split. But either way, it's clearly valid on that train.

Thanks