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Swiss Railway Ticketing - BBC Article

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Darandio

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I have done a search and couldn't find anything posted already, so apologies if it is the case.

I just thought it was a particularly interesting read, not sure how much comparison there is with the different systems we have here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21294241

Imogen Foulkes said:
Swiss love affair with rail turns sour

The Swiss have long been proud of their railways but a new, strict ticketing policy is turning the love affair sour.

As I write this, I am travelling home watching the sun set over the mountains which flank Lake Geneva.

It is bitterly cold, there has been a good deal of snow, but the train is right on time. It is warm and I have a seat.

I feel pleasantly smug as I look out at the rush hour traffic on the motorway.

I feel smugger still as the aroma of fresh coffee heralds the arrival of the drinks service. Swiss friends often tell me, proudly, that their rail service is the best in the world, but recently, the Swiss love affair with their railway has turned a little sour.

It all began with the decision to abolish ticket sales on trains, though ticket collectors stay. In theory, this should work - you can buy tickets from a machine on the platform, online, or by smartphone.

In practice, it has become a rancorous public relations disaster, and all because of a Byzantine logic over what constitutes a valid ticket, and a policy of issuing huge fines to passengers who do not have one.

Take, for example, the young man with a ticket which must be date-stamped by a machine on the platform. The machine is out of order, so he carefully writes in the date by hand, gets on board, and is fined by the conductor for not having a valid ticket.

There is the pensioner, out for a day with his grandson, who kindly bought both their tickets on his mobile phone, but it turns out you are only allowed one e-ticket per person, so poor old granddad is fined.

And then, there is me. One frosty morning I arrived at my local station to find that the ticket machine was broken. No matter, I thought, I have got a smartphone, and I hurriedly set about buying my ticket that way.

This was not as easy as I had hoped, fiddling between credit card and phone with freezing cold fingers, but, by the time I got on the intercity to Geneva I had an e-ticket and I proudly showed it to the conductor.

Unfortunately she was less than impressed and told me in no uncertain terms that my ticket was not valid. Why, only became clear several weeks later when a letter arrived from Swiss railways euphemistically named "revenue protection service".

The good people there tell me the formal payment for my ticket from my credit card company arrived four minutes after my train left the station. That means, they say, that I bought my ticket on the train - and that is not allowed.

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I had a read through this article & on face value, some of the situations where people have been fined do seem a bit draconian..!

The example where someone has paid for an "e" ticket before boarding a service but was fined as the payment had not been processed until 4 minutes after the departure of the train does seem a tad harsh.:(
 

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The example where someone has paid for an "e" ticket before boarding a service but was fined as the payment had not been processed until 4 minutes after the departure of the train does seem a tad harsh.:(

The Swiss are clearly trying to emulate our highly successful railway here in the UK....

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I remember reading once about an incident in Germany, where someone was fined for being in first class with a second class ticket. They were sitting on the stairs leading up to the first class section in a double-decker coach!
 

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I imagine that there is probably more to some of these scenarios than meets the eye. Some Swiss ticket stock instructs passengers to validate tickets by hand as necessary when validators are not available. Perhaps working validators were available in another part of the station for example?
 

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I don't think we have enough information on what happened to come to a firm conclusion either way.

I suppose it's possible that if SBB have decided to crack down on people boarding without tickets, that there may be some misunderstandings on what should happen under particular scenarios.
 
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