Super Off Peak

[IanXC]

Bit confused by this! Went down to buy a ticket for my journery tomorrow, with the following written down - as my intended trains:

07.00 HUL 09.45 KGX
20.30 KGX 23.11 HUL

I'd written next to that the cheapest fares I could find which were 2 singles at £35 and £42, and noted that I'd need a zone 6 travel card. However I've got a Super Offpeak Return from Hull to U1256 LONDN, which actually worked out cheaper that what I had found which was a nice surprise - but just been having a little look and that ticket type isnt coming up for the outbound train when I look online...

So I guess my question is what validity does a Super Offpeak Return have?

thanks

 

[tony_mac]

as far as I can see, it is valid to arrive into London after 11:17.

 

[First class]

Zone u1256 LONDN is NOT a travelcard. It allows a return journey between any two London Underground stations.

 

[ChrisTheRef]

Don't have Avantix at the moment, but guessing that an arrival into London at 09:45 is anything but Super Off Peak!

 

[IanXC]

Reading that back its probably not clear that I'd gone to a booking office for this!

Would going along to the booking office in Hull tomorrow morning and doing "hmm I bought these yesterday from X booking office, but it doesnt really look right now" be the best course of action?

Thanks for the info, with the LU bit would it allow me to go from KX to Kingston using LU and then SWT? As thats the journey I actually need!!

 

[First class]

Your ticket is not valid before 1117.

For that journey combination, you'd have to buy an Anytime Return route +Hull Trains Only priced at £145.00.

Outward Travel SOUTHBOUND_-
by any train scheduled to
ARRIVE at or after:

LONDON TERMINALS (except as
shown below) 1117

LONDON LIVERPOOL STREET 1000

LONDON ST PANCRAS 1129

LONDON EUSTON 1055

STEVENAGE 1100

LUTON 1129

LUTON AIRPORT PARKWAY 1129

BEDFORD 1129

WATFORD JUNCTION 1045

MILTON KEYNES CENTRAL 1030

 

[ainsworth74]

For that journey combination, you'd have to buy an Anytime Return route +Hull Trains Only priced at £145.00.

Forgive me if I'm reading you wrong but if that ticket is valid Hull Trains only then it still won't be valid as the 0700 to KGX is an East Coast service.

 

[swt_passenger]

I also think you need to ask again for ticket to Kingston.

U1256 won't cover NR at all will it, just a single journey to an LU station in any zone and one return?

 

[yorkie]

Hull-Peterborough SVR £59.00 Rte: Any Permitted
Peterborough-London Zones 1-6 £28.00 Rte: FCC Only (This is a Travelcard within London)
Total = £87.00

Get FCC between London & Peterborough. Arrive KGX 1022. Depart KGX 1922. OK, it's slower, but better than paying £150+

 

[Solent&Wessex]

Bit confused by this! Went down to buy a ticket for my journery tomorrow, with the following written down - as my intended trains:

07.00 HUL 09.45 KGX
20.30 KGX 23.11 HUL

I'd written next to that the cheapest fares I could find which were 2 singles at £35 and £42, and noted that I'd need a zone 6 travel card. However I've got a Super Offpeak Return from Hull to U1256 LONDN, which actually worked out cheaper that what I had found which was a nice surprise - but just been having a little look and that ticket type isnt coming up for the outbound train when I look online...

So I guess my question is what validity does a Super Offpeak Return have?

thanks

Without having the restrictions or timetable to hand, but looking at other posts, the Super Off Peak ticket would not be valid for the journey you are making.

Can I ask which station you brought you ticket from? Was it Hull or elsewhere?

I fear you may end up having to pay a fairly huge excess to make your ticket valid, which would probably work out more than the (probably Advance) fares you were originally quoted on line.

 

[RJ]

I always check and advise of restrictions on tickets, especially for those completely off patch. I once saw that somebody had sold some tourists a Groupsave London Terminals - Holyhead set of singles, expensive ching up indeed.

 

[IanXC]

It was a Northern ticket office. In order to get where I needed to be had to buy a £74 excess from a very surprised FTPE ticket office clerk. Although maybe the fact he'd run out of Northern complaint forms says it all...

And yes you were right the U1256 doesnt count as a travel card, had to buy another ticket for that too!

I feel a letter coming on!

Thanks for all your replies

 

[Solent&Wessex]

It was a Northern ticket office. In order to get where I needed to be had to buy a £74 excess from a very surprised FTPE ticket office clerk. Although maybe the fact he'd run out of Northern complaint forms says it all...

And yes you were right the U1256 doesnt count as a travel card, had to buy another ticket for that too!

I feel a letter coming on!

Thanks for all your replies

The issue of travelcards is slightly less easy to complain about I think, as the smaller station offices some way from London may not sell many at all. It was always the case that the destination for the travelcard was "R1256", and it was that for years.↲This changed the other year to "London Zones 1-6" but was very poorly publicised internally so there may have been some confusion in that regard.

 

[Deerfold]

The issue of travelcards is slightly less easy to complain about I think, as the smaller station offices some way from London may not sell many at all. It was always the case that the destination for the travelcard was "R1256", and it was that for years.↲This changed the other year to "London Zones 1-6" but was very poorly publicised internally so there may have been some confusion in that regard.

If a customer's been sold a different ticket than the one they asked for on the basis it's an equivalent the rail industry's processes shouldn't be their problem.