Situation at CAF Newport (197s/export work/897s)

[D365]

Aren't Northern looking for new units to replace the sprinters (not all?) surely they go for more 195/331 or go for a 196/197 or a 331 with a walk through variant?

Class 19x and Class 33x do not meet the requirements for the Northern tender.

 

[Snow1964]

Aren't Northern looking for new units to replace the sprinters (not all?) surely they go for more 195/331 or go for a 196/197 or a 331 with a walk through variant?

Yes they are, and having just checked the DfT procurement, have just realised it had update 11th September.

There is a line for Northern replacing oldest 15x (separate from the line with EMUs, BEMUs and MMUs for Northern). Which now has a value of a very precise £5,477,832,000

DfT and associated bodies listing of future commercial contracts (commercial pipeline) - GOV.UK

www.gov.uk

 

[tfw756rider]

Class 19x and Class 33x do not meet the requirements for the Northern tender.

In what way(s)?

 

[800001]

In what way(s)?

I believe from reading Northern's press release, it is because they want multi-mode units and also exploring the options with regards to level boarding.

Northern's new trains

Northern | Buy Cheap Train Tickets and Check Train Times

www.northernrailway.co.uk

Will these trains be accessible and have level-boarding?​

Any new trains must improve customer accessibility and help to remove barriers for everyone to travel by train. The details of how this can be achieved will be developed as part of the procurement process and, to ensure we provide the best possible solution for our customers, we are already working with the following:

• Our Accessibility User Group
• National Technical Specification Notice (NTSN-PRM) Persons with Reduced Mobility
• Network Rail – Owners and maintainers of the railway infrastructure, including tracks and platforms
• Rail Safety and Standards Board (RSSB) – The railway’s independent safety, standards and research body
• Transport Focus
• Manufacturers and solutions complying with NTSN-PRM

What sort of fuel will the new trains use?​

Our programme has three lots for the manufacturers to consider - Electric Multiple Units (EMU), Battery-Electric Multiple Units (BEMU), and Multi-mode Multiple Units (MMU) capable of conversion to either a BEMU or EMU during their life.

Why aren’t we ordering all-electric or battery trains straight away?​

Only 25% of Northern’s network is electrified, and the infrastructure needed to support a large fleet of battery trains also does not exist right now. Multi-mode units would allow us to be flexible and react to changes that happen to the infrastructure around us. Multi-modal units in the order will be capable of conversion to battery or electric-only operation during their lifetime.

 

[tfw756rider]

I believe from reading Northern's press release, it is because they want multi-mode units and also exploring the options with regards to level boarding.

Oh yeah, thanks.