Bletchleyite
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Silverstone is a decent distance from the M25, it would be a slog up the busiest section of the M1.
M40-A43 surely?
Silverstone is a decent distance from the M25, it would be a slog up the busiest section of the M1.
Also famously not the quietest stretches of road in the world.M40-A43 surely?
With regard to HS2 this is one good example of something an M25 Parkway might have been good for, in conjunction with a large fleet of coaches and through bookings?
I do feel the need to point out that MotoGP also runs races there. There were 99,000 this year (May), though it's usually help in August/September; last year 118,000 attendees across the weekend. Not as many as the 500,000 who attended the F1 race weekend, but many of those would have been camping or in campervans anyway.It really doesn't.
A line to Buckingham etc needs to be viable for the 362 days a year when the F1 circus is not at Silverstone.
But the issue is it's the level of demand for all but 7-8 days of the year that would struggle to justify a wayside station on an existing line, let alone an entirely new line.Silverstone is used for events and staff all year around so there would be some kind of demand throughout, though obviously the peak this time of year would be massive.
I know but i am just saying there would be some demand, whether it would be enough is the question. And probably not.But the issue is it's the level of demand for all but 7-8 days of the year that would struggle to justify a wayside station on an existing line, let alone an entirely new line.
Not unless it was conditional on a substantial expansion of Silverstone village, I expect.I know but i am just saying there would be some demand, whether it would be enough is the question. And probably not.
Just as simple to use Kings Langley and straight up the M1.
Silverstone of course tends to attract people who are into cars and bikes and the like. Who on average might be less inclined to take the train in any case compared to the population in general.
Though not as easy to get 400m shuttles going on the WCML...
I think the only "race track" in the UK with a direct rail connection is the ExCel Centre when it's hosting a Formula E race.
True, but I would imagine a 10 car 730 has as much passenger capacity as a 400m HS2 train.
Fair point. You might even beat that with 9 car 730/0 formations in the peak extra paths...
Fair enough, though the F1 is a somewhat unique event. Almost nobody goes to watch the amateur motorbike racing that I saw my brother in law doing at Silverstone, and of those, I wouldn't expect anyone to consider the train if it did exist.The queues down the street for trains at MKC last weekend (this never happens otherwise, not even during MK Bowl events) suggest otherwise.
Formula One won't spend a single penny on any track or associated infrastructure. They make money by selling the rights to host races, it would be down to BDRC to pay for it or lobby government to do it instead. Part of the terms for securing a hosting contract would be suitable facilities, and transport would be one of them.Agreed
No, but F1 is. And the BRDC is in a lot better position to be funding multi-million pound investment than, say, a county council. The British GP alone makes up about half of the BRDC's revenue each year, and the current F1 contract has a £30m/yr race fee paid by the BRDC to F1 for the next 10 years, so it's clearly worth a lot to them.
If Silverstone or F1 were willing to bankroll it
As a rail enthusiast, it may sound somewhat strange, but for the sort of occasional but busy event where there is no direct rail connection coaches are the right approach.
Perhaps they may apply for planning permission to expand soon and improved transport links could be made a condition of approval.But this is the issue: why would they be willign to bankroll it?
I can’t think of a single reason.
Glastonbury makes sense as it has a population of 10k and there are settlements around it of a similar size, which could all benefit from a branch off the mainline from Somerton.Agree. The road coach solution has flexibility, in that the resources used for Silverstone can be deployed elsewhere at other times of sporadic need, for example at Glastonbury. A rail link OTOH is by its nature inflexible and therefore needs a regular and sufficient level of use to justify it (and pay for it).
It's a ridiculous idea. However if there was a plan to improve rail links for the wider area (Brackley, Buckingham and Towcester) there is a case for a station at Silverstone.Perhaps they may apply for planning permission to expand soon and improved transport links could be made a condition of approval.
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It's not necessarily so ridiculous when you realise there's 17,000 people in Brackley who would use a connection to the national rail network at Banbury regularly.[
It's a ridiculous idea. However if there was a plan to improve rail links for the wider area (Brackley, Buckingham and Towcester) there is a case for a station at Silverstone.
That is doing some heavy lifting, there are a proportion of 17000 who might use a rail connection.It's not necessarily so ridiculous when you realise there's 17,000 people in Brackley who would use a connection to the national rail network at Banbury regularly.
The former railway alignment is largely clear until the western outskirts of Brackley from Banbury, so you minimise costs.
A corridor towards Northampton via Silverstone proper and Towcester would be nice, but 1) you'd have to negotiate a new alignment round Brackley close to the bypass and Silverstone as far as Towcester (the old Banbury to Towcester alignment passes several miles west of Brackley and a long way west of Silverstone),
2) your Towcester station would practically be so far from the centre (2-3 miles away), unless you found the money to tunnel alongside the bypass as far as Hulcote, to pick up the old alignment towards Roade.
3) you may need a new section of alignment around the Roade bypass to avoid residential development on the trackbed in Roade, and to join the Northampton loop line without interfering with the WCML.
True, but there are major destinations that disincentivise cars and that will be a major pull (Oxford, London etc.)That is doing some heavy lifting, there are a proportion of 17000 who might use a rail connection.