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QE2 under threat of imminent scrapping

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junglejames

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I don't doubt it. But I don't think she'll be seen this side of Suez anytime soon either!

Im not convinced either, no matter how viable. Whats the chance of Dubai agreeing to it? Very very slim, because they quite obviously hate the West, and everything it stands for. Esp the UK. Despite trying to copy us in everything they do.
Their initial plans for the QE2 showed they had a complete disregard for what they had just purchased, and probably wanted to carry out such changes just to annoy us Brits.
 
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Two large ocean going tugs are currently next to a now blacked out QE2; looks like she's on the move...
 

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Two large ocean going tugs are currently next to a now blacked out QE2; looks like she's on the move...

Tugs aren't cheap so she'll surely be away soon!

I bet at Long Beach if it wasn't for the fact that she's entombed in a man-made lagoon the Queen Mary's owners would be flogging her off too!
 

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I think the Queen Mary is technically state owned ( by the City* of Long Beach ) and run by a private franchise. Sounds familiar...!!

*Or whatever...


Turning back to QE2, the latest snippet is that Alang are expecting "a significant vessel under an alternative name" to be delivered shortly.:(
 

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Hmmm. I know nothing about maritime stuff so bear with me, but the vibe seems to be that the deal has not yet been done - hence why QE2 remains in Dubai. Why, then, was the crew changed last month?
 

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I think the Queen Mary is technically state owned ( by the City* of Long Beach ) and run by a private franchise. Sounds familiar...!!

*Or whatever...


Turning back to QE2, the latest snippet is that Alang are expecting "a significant vessel under an alternative name" to be delivered shortly.:(

If indeed she was destined for Alang, would there be any chance of them selling her on - perhaps if another party were to offer a slight profit on what they had paid - or would it likely have been a scrap-only sale?
 

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If it is bought and then brought back to this country what are you going to do, that is financially viable, with a 49,000 tonne ship?
 
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If it is bought and then brought back to this country what are you going to do with a 49,000 tonne ship that is financially viable?

Viable? or not viable? If it's viable then you have plenty of options I guess, if not then you have very few :|
 

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If indeed she was destined for Alang, would there be any chance of them selling her on - perhaps if another party were to offer a slight profit on what they had paid - or would it likely have been a scrap-only sale?

When a ship arrives at Alang, it is beached under power at high water to drive it as far from the tideline as possible, so once there, only one outcome is possible.

If I've got this link right, it'll go straight to a post showing SS Norway ( ex- SS France ) immediately after arrival at Alang:

http://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,4759.msg50219.html#msg50219

If the link goes to the thread itself, it's post #36 you need.
 
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When a ship arrives at Alang, it is beached under power at high water to drive it as far from the tideline as possible, so once there, only one outcome is possible.

Indeed Alang is less a breakers yard and more a beach that happens to be quite good for breaking ships on. There was a documentary on TV not so long ago about the place, I saw part of it and it really was quite a fascinating watch.

The France/Norway certainly paints a sad picture there (your link is fine :)) and of course she's gone entirely now (well apart from a small section of her bow).
 

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Viable? or not viable? If it's viable then you have plenty of options I guess, if not then you have very few :|

What financially viable could be done with the 49,000 tonne ship!

I will edit that post as it doesnt read very well.
 

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No that's the problem! I've been scratching my head but can't think of it which is annoying as I'd quite like to track it down and give it another (full) watching. Sorry :(
 

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Channel 4 News had a piece a couple of months back on the arrival of the 'Oriental Nicety', previously Exxon Valdez.
 

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Not yet - while it does appear that the threat of scrapping is no longer current, she has been without power for two or three months now ( in hot and humid conditions and much of the artwork is still aboard! ) and it is still not clear exactly where she will move to as a hotel or when.

There is a lot of concern for her condition since the power blackout started.
 

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Sirs,

A daily mail article from July:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sail-Dubai-China-conversion-luxury-hotel.html

daily mail article said:
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The QE2 is to return to the seas after a troubled five-year stay in Dubai.
The former pride of the Cunard Line and Falklands War veteran was bought by Dubai for $100 million and arrived there amid much fanfare in November 2008.
There were ambitious plans to convert her into a luxury hotel docked at the Palm Jumeirah, a tree-shaped artificial island that was a symbol of Dubai’s helter-skelter development.

Back to the seas: The QE2 is to set sail again after a troubled five-year stay in Dubai
However the project was cancelled amid the financial meltdown that saw property prices in the Gulf city plummet.
The iconic liner’s voyage from her home port of Southampton to Dubai in 2008 was expected to be her last ever. Today, however, it was announced in Dubai that she will take to the waves once more.
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On October 18 she will be given a gala send-off as she departs for China, stopping off at Singapore and Hong Kong on the way.
The liner, which was built on the Clyde and launched in 1967, will be converted at a Chinese shipyard into a luxury 400-suite floating hotel at a cost of US$90 million.

Historic: An aerial view of the QE2 pulling into Southampton harbour after the Falklands War
The work is expected to be completed by the end of 2014, and she will then travel to her final destination, a yet-to-be-named city in Asia.
The vessel has been readied for the voyage at Dubai’s drydocks, where seven of her nine engines have been renewed. A captain and crew have been recruited, and the liner will sail under the flag of Vanuatu, the Pacific island nation where she is registered.
Ownership of the ship has been transferred to a new Dubai company called QE2 Shipping.*
Chairman Khamis Juma Buamim said: “Over the last few months we have put a lot of effort and work into this project in planning and negotiation and our overall plans for the QE2 are well on track.
'We will deliver an iconic project for the world to romance and talk about for many many years to come.'
The world’s best-loved liner criss-crossed the Atlantic with the biggest celebrities of the day on board for nearly 40 years, and in 1982 carried 3,000 troops to the Falklands.
However she has been in the doldrums since the scrapping of the Dubai hotel project.
She had been bought by Dubai World, the conglomerate behind the Palm islands and other mega-projects that has since been engulfed in debt.

Initial plans: The QE2 was going to become a luxury hotel docked at the Palm Jumeirah, a tree-shaped artificial island, but it was cancelled when Dubai's economy nose-dived
A ceremony was held on deck to mark the purchase, and Sultan bin Sulayem, the then-chairman of Dubai World, said: 'The QE2 has come to a home that will cherish and protect her. Her future has been assured.'
However there was outcry in Britain when it was reported that plans to refurbish the vessel would involve destroying its distinctive outline by removing its funnel.
After the scheme was scrapped a number of other proposals came to nothing. There were reports that she would sail to Cape Town to serve as a floating hotel during the 2010 World Cup, and rumours that Dubai would sell her back to Britain.
Last December it was reported that she was being sold to China for scrap. The reports were denied, and the plans to convert her into a hotel to be based in Asia were revealed.
Yesterday’s announcement that the QE2 is to leave Dubai appeared to confirm that she is about to enter a new era.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...na-conversion-luxury-hotel.html#ixzz2eiIglFA2

This is however contradicted by the QE2 Story website:

http://www.theqe2story.com/aboutQE2/QE2Today.html
 

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Rob Lightbody is understandably pessimistic. There is a disparity between what Oceanic are actually saying "the ship has been brought back in to class" and the truth (which is that it has not, as can be pretty easily verified). What isn't known is if they are actually working on bringing the ship in to class.

The huge sums of money involved in this beg many questions.
 
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